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    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 "Chagall" to feature xGMI at 18 GT/s

    Posted: 10 Jul 2021 09:49 AM PDT

    Power consumption of Rocket Lake compared to Zen 3 & Comet Lake

    Posted: 10 Jul 2021 10:53 PM PDT

    Intel's current processors are usually not rated well in the public discussion because of their high power consumption. This is often proven by (high) power consumption values, which however often come from systems that run without power limits.

    The following list of power consumption measurements of the pure CPU (not the entire system) concentrates on measurements under activation of the official power limits. Thus, there is neither a time expansion at PL2 nor an active "Adaptive Boost". The measurements themselves were mostly realized via simply reading out the package power in corresponding tools (which, according to general experience, is quite accurate).

     

      Cores, Gen, TDP, PL2/PPT Gaming avg Gaming max H.264 CB20 Prime95 Peak
    Source   CapFrameX CapFrameX Comptoir HWluxx ComputerB AnandTech
    Core i9-11900K 8C RKL, 125/251W 109W 133W 148W 230W 125W (Peak 243W) 296W
    Core i7-11700K 8C RKL, 125/251W 102W 126W 148W 188W - 277W
    Core i5-11600K 6C RKL, 125/251W - - 138W 142W 125W (Peak 182W) 210W
    Ryzen 9 5950X 16C Zen 3, 105/142W - - 166W 146W 116W -
    Ryzen 9 5900X 12C Zen 3, 105/142W 99W 114W 166W 149W 130W 142W
    Ryzen 7 5800X 8C Zen 3, 105/142W - - 155W 149W - 141W
    Ryzen 5 5600X 6C Zen 3, 65/88W - - 89W 81W - 76W
    Core i9-10900K 10C CML, 125/250W 83W 117W 148W 223W 125W 252W
    Core i7-10700K 8C CML, 125/229W - - 147W 184W - 205W
    Core i5-10600K 6C CML, 125/182W 59W 72W 117W 103W 125W 131W

     

    The limits of this method are quite apparent: Depending on whether the hardware tester specifies a peak consumption (highest peak value) or an average consumption or a consumption after the end of the PL2 phase, very different values can come out for the Intel processors (the differences between average and peak consumption remain much more within limits for AMD).

    A particularly obvious example of this is the Prime95 measurement from ComputerBase: Sure enough, a Core i9-11900K reaches a peak consumption of 243 watts here, which is simply too much for this CPU. However, it goes down to a constant 125 watts after the PL2 phase is finished (after 56 seconds). Thus, this Intel processor consumes what equivalent AMD processors consume - like the Ryzen 7 5800X, which often exhausts its PPT of 142 watts and thus tends to consume even slightly more than the Intel processor.

    It's much less clear whether peak or average values were given for the other measurements - the measured values themselves rather point to peak values. However, these are always significantly higher in Intel's processors due to the PL2 influence, which does not represent a statement about the long-term power consumption. Both values are certainly worth knowing, because the PL2 will be seen quite often in daily office work with often very fluctuating loads, even though it is usually only for a very short time.

    Maybe the hardware testers should think about generally stating both values in the future - peak consumption and averaged consumption. For the averaged consumption, a tool like the Performance Efficiency Suite is also useful, which can be used to record the complete energy consumption of a defined task (unfortunately only Cinebench at the moment). This levels out all short-term higher power consumption values - the way to the target is left to the CPU manufacturers, only the total energy consumption is evaluated.

    Apart from that, the unpleasantness which Intel currently experiences for the power consumption of Rocket Lake (and Comet Lake before that) is certainly also due to the fact that Intel overdoes it quite a bit with this de facto boost function. Releasing processors with a TDP of 125 watts, which are allowed to consume double that for up to just under a minute, is far away from a "short-term" boost in favor of "snappiness".

    This is definitely a feature (just) to win benchmarks, according to the development that many benchmarks in the CPU segment have quite short runtimes due to the performance achieved nowadays. Since processor power is mostly available in abundance these days, the mass of users apparently don't want processor models that go for low performance gains above certain power consumption levels that are simply considered "unhealthy". The 200 watt range should simply be reserved for HEDT users who can justify this high power consumption with corresponding processor performance and a real need for it.

     

    Source: 3DCenter.org, translated with the help of DeepL

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    Owner of China's Only 3D NAND Maker Faces Bankruptcy

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    If somone wants design a hardware like a cpu or a gpu or a motherboard what major should he or ahe take EE or CE

    Posted: 10 Jul 2021 11:56 AM PDT

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    Some AMD laptops reduce system performance for better battery life, but is that OK?

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    How likely are DP2.0 monitors to come 2021? What can we expect anyway?

    Posted: 10 Jul 2021 07:35 AM PDT

    Hey guys,

    Like the title says : What can we expect from Displayport 2.0 ? Will we finally see 5K2K ultrawides with 120Hz+ ?

    They were supposed to launch last year, now they are planned for End 2021.

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    When it comes to independent (self-bought) and relatively standardized review of large number of tech products Canadians have Rtings, Americans have Project Farm. What do we Europeans have for EU product models?

    Posted: 10 Jul 2021 02:57 AM PDT

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