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    Hardware support: Nvidia GPUs over the years (Ampere included)

    Hardware support: Nvidia GPUs over the years (Ampere included)


    Nvidia GPUs over the years (Ampere included)

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 09:15 AM PDT

    Hey everyone, I received a lot of comments on the comparison I made between previous generations of Nvidia GPUs here so I thought I'd tidy it up a bit.

    In my opinion, it is very interesting to see pricing trends over the years along with data regarding performance deltas, TDP and fabrication differences. I think it makes for a very good discussion.

    Card Release Date Last Gen Time (Ti) In Market Price Price Cut Performance TDP Process Node
    GTX 780 Ti November 7, 2013 $699 230W TSMC 28nm
    GTX 970 September 18, 2014 10 months $329 2%-3% slower than 780 Ti 145W TSMC 28nm
    GTX 980 September 18, 2014 10 months $549 10-15% faster than 780 Ti 165W TSMC 28nm
    GTX 980 Ti June 1, 2015 19 months $650 70% faster than 780 Ti 250W TSMC 28nm
    GTX 1070 June 10, 2016 12 months $379 10% faster than 980 Ti 150W TSMC 16 nm (FinFET)
    GTX 1080 May 27, 2016 12 months $599 $499 (February 28, 2017) 25-30% faster than 980 Ti 180W TSMC 16 nm (FinFET)
    GTX 1080 Ti March 5, 2017 21 months $699 70% faster than 980 Ti 250W TSMC 16 nm (FinFET)
    RTX 2070 October 17, 2018 19-20 months $499 10%-12% slower than 1080 Ti 175W TSMC 12 nm (FinFET)
    RTX 2080 September 20, 2018 19 months $699 5%-8% faster than 1080 Ti 215W TSMC 12 nm (FinFET)
    RTX 2080 Ti September 27, 2018 19 months $999 (Realistically $1100-1200) 34% faster than 1080 Ti 250W TSMC 12 nm (FinFET)
    RTX 3070 September, 2020? 24 months $??? Unknown 220W? Samsung 10nm/8nm?
    RTX 3080 September, 2020? 24 months $??? 20% faster than 2080 Ti? 320W? Samsung 10nm/8nm?
    RTX 3080 Ti September, 2020? 24 months $??? 30%-40% faster than 2080 Ti? 350W? Samsung 10nm/8nm?
    • Turing refresh (Super cards) not included because I chose to include only architectural product shifts. The refresh is basically just overdue price cuts.
    • Prices are MSRPs for non founder edition cards. RTX 2080 Ti market prices are more expensive than MSRP.
    • Source for RTX 3000 TDP rumor
    • Sources for Ampere process node rumor: @kopite7kimi, @KkatCorgi, igorslab
    • Sources for performance calculations: AnandTech, TechPowerup, GamersNexus, BabelTechReviews (basically, all their reviews for the mentioned cards)
    • Sources for RTX 3080 performance rumors: @kopite7kimi, @KkatCorgi
    • Sources for RTX 3080 Ti performance rumors - @KkatCorgi, hardwareleaks

    The most important conclusion I've drawn is that up until Turing - approximately 1 year after a Ti card has been released, you could get the same performance for 40-60% of the price. That is amazing to me.

    When Turing was released, everything changed and you basically got zero extra performance per dollar.

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    Samsung is facing difficulties in improving 5nm chip yields

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 03:43 AM PDT

    [Anandtech] - AMD Launches 12 Desktop Renoir Ryzen 4000G Series APUs: But You Can’t Buy Them

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 06:01 AM PDT

    Death Stranding - FidelityFX vs DLSS vs native image at 1080p comparison!

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 03:19 PM PDT

    https://imgsli.com/MTk0MTQ/0/1

    Keep in mind some changes are due to the dynamic lighting and effects of the game, like the lighting change at the rocky hill and the missing strand in native and DLSS image .

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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Starts Vanishing from Stores as Prices Hit $1,700

    Posted: 22 Jul 2020 12:35 AM PDT

    [Tom's Hardware] - AMD Says Zen 3 Consumer CPUs Will Launch This Year

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 03:11 PM PDT

    StarTech M2E1BRU31C NVME-drive-enclosure First-Impressions Review

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 06:33 PM PDT

    Startech M2E1BRU31C just launched with NA availability. I got one and first impressions are good. Made in Taiwan. 150g with drive inside. Solid 2 pieces of machined and anodized aluminum. Inner rubber seal provides the IP67 resistance. Thermal pad, single USB-C port. Came with screwdriver, friction pads, and user's manual. I have 4 criticisms. One, it's expensive. 140 USD / 200 CAD. Two, the base-lid doesn't come off easily so you have to stick a screwdriver in one of the 4 mounting holes and lever it out of the slot. Three, the anodized layer is very thin and easy to wear off. Four, they use torx screws (T5 or smaller) which I find a pain to fit the driver and torque-wise unnecessary (I'm a hex fan). Fortunately it's M2.5 standard thread so I was able to test my beloved hex-socket cap screws and the threads are deep (great!). But my screws' cap height was too large to have my NVME drive's metal pad and the thermal pad touch properly on the inside, and the counterbores too small-diameter (on the outside 4 mounting holes) to sink my screws properly. That said, I think this is tentatively the best NVME enclosure with standard commercial availability at the moment. Tested on Debian 10.4 successfully. I will return with updates after I get more usage testing done.

    Pictures:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/189402926@N02/albums/72157715190900292

    submitted by /u/openyk
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    Seagate BarraCuda 120 SSD 1 TB Review

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 09:14 AM PDT

    AMD Ryzen 4000G APU Specs, Release Date, & Athlon 3150G CPUs: 4700G, 4600G, 4300G

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 06:09 AM PDT

    Question: With Ampere and RDNA2 GPU's releasing soon, how should Upscaling Tech (e.g. FidelityFX and DLSS) be factored in reviews?

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 10:23 PM PDT

    In the past, GPU comparisons were relatively straightforward. Reviewers just compare their framerates in stock settings and aggregate the results. Now technologies like FidelityFX CAS and DLSS offer big FPS gains by rendering the games below native resolution. One key issue here is game support is still limited. Both upscaling tech are not used in a vast majority of games. Future ubiquity is also not guaranteed.

    The question now is: How should these technologies be factored into tech reviews? Should the upscaled FPS be taken at face value and valid for aggregate results? What if some games support only one or the other? Should reviewers simply evaluate their price/performance at native resolution?

    submitted by /u/Aggrokid
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    Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G Review

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 12:54 PM PDT

    [VideoCardz] Intel confirms Alder Lake is using Hybrid Core/Atom architecture

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 02:26 AM PDT

    Samsung Odyssey G7 HDR Performance, Is It Worth Buying for HDR?

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 04:51 AM PDT

    David Patterson: Computer Architecture and Data Storage | AI Podcast

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 12:13 PM PDT

    AMD's Ryzen 4000G Renoir Chips: Up to Eight Cores For Pre-Built OEM Systems

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 06:03 AM PDT

    Are the old, beige PC cases less environmentally friendly compared to current metallic cases? If not, it is time for them to have a come back. I think even landscape desktop cases should have a return.

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 05:02 PM PDT

    ELI5: Why can we have a 32 core (or even 64 core) CPU at 3Ghz+ but not a single core CPU at 96Ghz (3Ghz * 32) or even 1/10th of that at 9Ghz?

    Posted: 21 Jul 2020 10:52 PM PDT

    I assume it's due to heat, but why would a single core at 10Ghz produce more heat than 32 cores at 3Ghz?

    submitted by /u/Algorithmopolus
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