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    Build a PC: Simple Questions - July 17, 2020


    Simple Questions - July 17, 2020

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 05:12 AM PDT

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

    • Is this RAM compatible with my motherboard?
    • I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1070. Which one should I get?
    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    My first PC build

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 06:06 AM PDT

    So my little brother has always talked about "PC master race" as a console guy I never understood. Well after 33 years he convinced me to build this rig. It's my personal console killer .

    my build

    i5-9600k | Z390 Aorus pro WiFi | Gtx 1070 OC mini | 16gb vengeance DDR4 @3600 | CORSAIR - Hydro Series H100i RGB Platinum | Corsair 750w | Samsung evo 970 1TB | CORSAIR - iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid-Tower Smart Case

    Edit: added in some actual product names

    Edit2: A couple people have commented on the 1070. The reason for that is because i repurposed this GPU from my Aorus eGPU (Gigabyte GTC 1070 OC Mini) and took it out of the eGPU casing and into my MOBO... I didn't purchase it for the build. And yes i would LOVE a 2070/80

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    Thanks to the POS who broke in and destroyed my little brother's computer!

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 09:50 AM PDT

    I'm not sure where else to post this and I just wanted to vent.

    Yesterday, my dad's house was broken into while they were away. Among damaging the house, stealing valuables and cash, and performing other scum of the earth activities they destroyed my little brother's new gaming PC. I just built it for him around christmas and upgraded it a few days ago for his birthday. This piece of trash opened his case and presumably tried to steal his GPU. He cut, not ripped but CUT, any wires he could see connecting anything to the motherboard. Evidently he wasn't aware of the GPU retaining clip, because he wasn't able to get it out. An absolute genius. However, he didn't stop there. He also poured water in the entire thing when he was done. So, not only is my little brother scared to sleep in his own room at night he also is deprived of one of his greatest joys. No kid should have to deal with this shit. My dad is going to be bringing me the machine later today to see what I can do to fix it.

    I haven't seen the PC in person yet, but here are some pictures my Dad sent me of some of the damage: https://imgur.com/a/mkgKpji

    Anyone got any ideas on whether we could repair the cut wires or to just buy a new PSU? It was a non-modular power supply so I'm afraid buying new cables is out of the picture.

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    Tip for beginner builders. It takes 2 nap times* to "complete" your first build

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 02:26 AM PDT

    *build time may vary depending on how long your baby naps for.

    "Complete" does not include cable management or all software updates.

    Also yaay working PC! Thanks for all the help folks.

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    What I learned after building my first PC (Tips for fellow beginners)

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 08:56 AM PDT

    I started off on this marvellous adventure a few months ago, with no idea what I was doing. After several months of both saving and planning, I purchased my parts, built the machine, overclocked, and am now writing this post.

    However, there was a massive amount of research involved here, and I made a few mistakes along the way. I'd like to share what I did, why I did it, and what I'd do differently next time for the beginners here who are where I was a few months back.

    Let's start with choosing your parts. As all of you (hopefully) know, you need:

    • A processor (the CPU)
    • RAM
    • A motherboard
    • Memory for the system to run on (a hard drive/SSD)
    • A graphics card
    • A CPU cooler (this may be included with the CPU)
    • A case (and possibly some extra case fans)
    • A power supply

    Most of these choices are fairly straightforward, but there are a few things of note-

    • Ryzen CPUs tend to have more cores, which run at a lower clock speed. Intel processors, on the other hand, have fewer cores and run at higher speeds. This means that if you're running applications that can't use more than X cores, you'll want to go with Intel, but for gaming and other basic tasks you'll want Ryzen.
    • Ryzen processors tend to be more sensitive to RAM latency than Intel. I'm unfortunately not very familiar with Ryzen and as such can't say for sure what good RAM specs are here.
    • Don't forget the motherboard wireless! I learned the hard way and bought an entry-level motherboard that didn't have it. I'm currently working off a wifi dongle until my wallet fills up again so I can put in a wi-fi card.
    • SSDs are life. Read time on an M.2 SSD versus a 7200RPM HDD is the difference between a five second boot time, and a 30 second boot followed by 5 minutes of loading icons and starting background processes.
    • AIOs may not be the best choice. For example, a dual-fan AIO is equivalent to a mid-range Noctua air cooler, but a high-end air cooler will actually best the AIO in most cases. That said, my i5-10600K is running at 5Ghz on a dual-fan AIO and never goes above 80C.
    • A good case is the difference between a quick build and a painful one. I spent about half an hour trying to figure out how to fit my AIO into the top of my Fractal Design Focus G, before finally realizing that the air filters needed to be removed for this to work. Then, after I'd put the AIO in, I had to take it out again to access the CPU's power connectors once it was time for wiring.
    • This has been said many times, but it needs to be said again - some people just don't get it. DO NOT cheap out on the power supply. I spent $120 USD on Corsair's RM650 power supply, and I'm not regretting it. Buy a cheap supply, and it could very well fry an essential component in your build. Enough said.

    All right, enough said. Here's why I chose the parts I did:

    My machine, unlike most, is not primarily a gaming PC. I do a fair bit of CAD, and these softwares tend to use outdated modelling engines incapable of using more than 2 cores. For this reason, I wanted to hit around 5 Ghz without breaking the bank, and settled on Intel's brand-new i5-10600K, which can easily hit my target overclock.

    I primarily wanted a Noctua air cooler, but these were difficult to find in Canada when I bit the bullet and purchased my parts, so I settled for an equivalent AIO - CoolerMaster's ML240L RGB.

    Even though RAM speed doesn't matter much on Intel platforms, I wanted my build to be future-proof so I chose 16 gigabytes of G-Skill Ripjaws V 3200Mhz, split across two 8Gb sticks.

    I needed my build to stay under $2000 CDN, so I wasn't able to afford a hard drive and SSD. For this reason, I went with a 250Gb M.2 drive, with plans to add a 2Tb 7200RPM HDD once my wallet filled up again.

    My motherboard had to support the Z490 chipset, as well as have enough power to overclock my chosen CPU. Luckily, even entry-level boards these days have more than enough, so I selected MSI's Z490 A-Pro. Looking back, this was a dumb choice as I forgot to get Wi-fi on the motherboard, and I'll have to add a wireless card in the future.

    I'm one of the few who's happy with 60 FPS at max settings in games, but I also wanted to future-proof and selected EVGA's RTX 2060 KO Ultra. The advantage of this card is that since it uses a 2080's die locked to 2060 performance while gaming, in some other tasks the card will perform similar to a 2060S or (rarely) a 2070.

    I honestly under-thought the case, and only worried about whether it would fit my components. I settled on Fractal Design's Focus G case, which turned out to be a bad decision. More on that later.

    I also wanted one extra 120mm case fan for air throughput, which would result in 3x120mm blowing in, and 2x140mm blowing out.

    Lastly, the power supply needed two 4+4 pin CPU connectors. This is due to the Z490 chipset requiring an extra 4-pin CPU connector to run at extreme overclocks. While my system would have run fine without the extra 4-pin connector, it made sense to get it anyways since future generations of Intel processors will most likely rely quite heavily on the extra power.

    That pretty much covers why I chose what I did. Here's a brief summary of how the actual build should go:

    • Secure the CPU into the motherboard
    • Insert the RAM
    • Connect the M.2 drive if you have one
    • Prep and install the CPU cooler. Note that AIO coolers are a bit of a pain here, as the tubes coming off the CPU will need to be taken into account and kept out of the way until the motherboard is secured inside the case.
    • Mount the motherboard into the case
    • (Optional) Secure your AIO's heatsink. Add the fans later, to ensure you don't need to remove them to access your CPU's power connectors. In tight cases such as the one I used, the AIO may have to come out again later to let you get to the power connectors; however it's still best to install it just to keep it out of the way.
    • Install your GPU into a PCIE slot. If some veteran here can clarify why on earth it installs upside down, I'd appreciate that.
    • Install the power supply and wire everything up. In the case of a modular or semi-modular PSU. Some will say to connect the cables to the supply before securing it; in my case I installed them after to get slightly cleaner cable management.
    • Add your case fans. My preference was to have two pulling in in the front, and one in the back, using the top AIO as exhaust. While this may not work the best, as the AIO gets air that has already been used by the GPU, it worked well enough in my case and I was unable to push my 10th-gen i5 to 80 degrees, even after long periods of simultaneous GPU and CPU stress testing.

    Disclaimer: This is not a build guide. It is a build summary and I highly recommend following a YouTube guide, which will describe the build in much more detail.

    Once you've built your machine, configure your BIOS with fan settings and then install the operating system of your choice. After this, you'll need to track down which programs are needed (well, not actually, just intended for use) with your system and install these.

    A few notes regarding mobo/CPU/GPU utilities:

    • MSI Dragon Center is almost useless; I uninstalled it after I noticed it using large amounts of bandwidth in the background.
    • EVGA X1 and similar GPU tweaking utilities pale when you turn to MSI Afterburner, which I highly recommend. Note that GPU tweak utilities differ from drivers; for example, I had to install Nvidia's GeForce Game Ready driver to use my RTX 2060. EVGA X1, the related software, was not needed.
    • CoreTemp is ideal for checking CPU temps and making sure your cooler has been installed correctly (it's pretty hard to get it wrong).

    Once all this is done, you have a stable system. I won't touch on overclocking much here as that's an advanced subject I'm not willing to admit mastery of yet; however, if you're running an Intel system you should probably go to the BIOS and enable XMP, which will allow RAM to run at full speed.

    Before I end this, here's my build list.

    And now that I've actually built it, here's what I'd recommend if you want a build similar to mine.

    I hope this long-winded post helps first-time builders out somewhat.

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    Need help to narrow down motherboard for ryzen 5 3600

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 04:37 AM PDT

    Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
    ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F
    ASUS PRIME X570-P

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    Fans turn on but PC won't boot after installing a new graphics card

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 06:47 AM PDT

    I installed a new graphics card yesterday, everything was fully functional and I played all night with zero issues. Today when I plugged it in to the wall, it tripped a switch and the power in my room went out. I switched the power back on and plugged it back in - the fans immediately started up (it has always done this, not sure why), but after I hit the "on" button (which usually starts it properly) the fans started stopping and starting at random intervals. I turned it off manually and restarted, and it sounded like it was going to boot up properly, but nothing is appearing on screen.

    Does anyone have any idea what's up here??

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    Thought Process Behind Building a PC. For Beginners, by Beginners.

    Posted: 16 Jul 2020 03:16 PM PDT

    Disclaimer: I wrote this out of boredom, and to put every knowledge I gathered this last months somewhere for everyone to see. I do not claim any authority nor will take any responsability for whatever you decide to do with this guide. I guarantee that all I wrote, I wrote in good faith. I would really love to be criticized and corrected. Thank you u/buildapc for your help!

    Hello fellow /builder! You are probably here to ask for help about your dream pc build. I know I did. For hours. Weeks, actually. I have put together my system about a month ago. Rather than simply sharing my story and showing off my build (I'm not showing because cable management is b a d, ugh), I'd like to give something back to this wonderful community. So here it is, a guide for beginners, in layman terms, without unnecessary technical information.

    Fundamentals

    In order to even begin to request help for building your pc, first you need to know what your computer is going to be used for! There's 3 orders of information priority:

    Primary informations:

    Target resolution: the most common being 1080p/1440p/4k and ultra wide variants
    Target refresh rate: 60hz/75hz/144hz mostly
    Budget
    Intended purpose: workstation, gaming, rendering, etc.

    If you can't provide these, nobody can really help you, at best they can make educated guesses. These informations relate directly to the parts responsible for your performance: CPU, Graphics Card, RAM, and indirectly to Motherboard.

    If you own a monitor, you need to find out its specs either by googling the model name, or in Advanced Display Informations. To find details about your monitor, head to Settings > System > Display and scroll down and click on "Advanced Display Settings". If you are going to buy a monitor, you should always have resolution and refresh rate in mind when picking one.

    Budget and intended purpose are self explanatory!

    Secondary informations:

    Preferred gaming titles
    Overclocking capabilities
    High average ambient temperature concerns - ie: living at the equator or in a tropical area
    Country of residence: mainly for parts scarcity or known overpriced parts
    Preferred thermal solution: air or water?

    These informations are optional, but might help tailoring your build to your exact needs.

    Let's say you like Cities Skylines and are going to play that title 90% of the time. Now whoever is helping you, is going to recommend up to 32 gb ram and a slightly overpowered CPU to handle that. Let's say you want to play e-sports only, you might be able to scale down the project and save something on your budget. It's not an everyday occurrance to find someone who is going to play a couple of titles only, but it's less uncommon than you might think! Knowing this specific piece of information can make a measurable difference.

    If your intention is overclocking, then it's a good idea to say so in your build request. Not every piece of hardware can be overclocked, and not every motherboard can support overclocking. Nevertheless, if you need this guide, then I kindly suggest you do not oveclock.

    About ambient temperature, it's only really a concern at the high spectrum of the curve, but it might force you to pick a thermal solution.

    More on thermal solution later.

    Tertiary informations:

    RGB: Y/N/Whocares
    Preferred brand
    Preferred case (if any)
    And pretty much anything cosmetic

    These informations are merely cosmetic.

    Some people are obsessed by RGB, some are not. If you don't mention your cosmetic preference, nobody is going to care. Function is always over form when building a pc, particularly with a budget in mind.

    Most people prefer a brand - I know I do - but most will settle for something else as long as it's better for their needs. If you are a die hard brand loyalist, you should mention that before someone figures out a build for you only to scrap it because you'd rather have a nVidia Graphics Card or Intel instead of AMD CPUs.

    It happens mostly when upgrading, but sometimes people want their build to end up in their dream (or old) case. If you are in this position, you should mention that because of space constraints. More on this later.

    So, here's an example of a terrible build request:

    pls help I need help for a new pc for under 1k, help?

    And here's an example of a good build request:

    Hello, I own a 1440p/75hz monitor, I want to play AAA titles at ultra and my budget is about 1200€. I prefer AMD, want RGB (unless it's over my budget), and have a mid tower UL7R4 C00L PC case themed red. I also need some advice on water cooling.

    Signed: a gentleman and a scholar

    Doing your research

    Sometimes, you just want to figure out things on your own. Good. Here's what I did, starting with basics.

    This is the list of parts directly tied to performance:

    • Processor
    • Graphics Card
    • RAM

    This is the list of parts that support your performance:

    • Motherboard
    • Storage
    • Thermal solution

    This is the list of parts that handle your system safety and are indirectly tied to performance

    • Power supply
    • Motherboard
    • Thermal solution
    • Case

    How do you even begin? Let's see first what these parts do.

    CPU

    The Processor... processes. Want to open a Chrome tab? Process that! Discord in background? A core will take care of that! Preparing a frame for your GPU to render with lights, textures, shadows? That's exactly what your CPU is for.

    Explaining how and what a CPU does is over the scope of this guide, so here's what you really need to know: core clock, and core count. And that's it for the most part. These two concepts are interrelated. You could have 64 core to work with at a low core clock and it could handle a ludicrous amount of processes, while unable to handle a single process that takes up to 4 cores but requires from each of them a high core clock. Such is the case with videogames, which mostly work off a limited number of cores and will perform better the faster each used core is. More cores ain't going to help, because the game ain't going to use it unless it is programmed to do so!

    Manufacturer usually take care of this for the consumers, by splitting their hardware portfolio in processors for servers and for consumers. AMD server CPUs are called Epyc and have a consumer equivalent (read: from the same generation) called Ryzen. Intel has Xeons for servers and their i3/i5/i7 line up for consumers.

    Every generation of CPUs has its own fitting socket. You physically can't put a CPU in a socket that was not designed for that CPU. A CPU socket is a part of motherboards.

    If you are going to pick a Ryzen CPU, it is a good idea to check what RAM capacity and clock it works best with. You can find benchmarks online for that.

    Some CPUs are integrated with Graphics Card. These are referred to as APUs, and I'm not going to talk about them because I'm uninformed.

    Tip: when picking a CPU, check console hardware. I'm not joking. Consoles are meant for gaming and are the common denominator of hardware progress for gaming. PS5 and XBox X are going to have 8 core CPUs, of which 2 are reserved for the system, thus 6 cores for videogames to play with. It's a reasonable expectation that the new standard for CPU core count is going to be 6 in the years to come.

    Graphics Card

    If you're a gamer, you want to pay close attention when picking a good GPU for your build. The GPU market is not as segmented as CPU market is, and you can easily find benchmarks for each of them at any mainstream resolution tier. Thus, picking a GPU is commonly the first step of your build, because it is directly tied to the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor.

    You need not to worry too much about the specs of your GPU. Benchmarks are pretty accurate at predicting their performance, but picking an aftermarket card (sometimes referred to as custom cards) can be tricky. Every Graphic Card design is reinterpreted by different manufacturers, offer different software and bios support, different thermal solutions and features.

    Here's some of them:

    • Max clock: some GPUs are factory overclocked, mostly depending on their thermal solutions.
    • Length: while it's mostly a concern for space constraints in your case, a longer card has generally better heat dissipation because they can fit two or more fans.
    • I/O shield: basically, the number and type of ports on your GPU.
    • RGB
    • 0DB fans: some cards fan will not start spinning until a target temperature is reached. Neat!

    About I/O shield: this is generally a concern for multi monitor setup, but you should always double check that the graphics card you are buying has the correct port for your monitor, be it HDMI, Display Port, DVI or VGA. Adapters exist, but are unreliable.

    AMD and Nvidia have their own V-sync function, which must be supported by the monitor in the first place in order to work. AMD has Free Sync, and most monitors have this. Nvidia has G-Sync, and most monitors do not have this. Good news for Nvidia, though. They finally caved in and added support for Free Sync, but your monitor needs to have both Free Sync and Display Port 1.2 (well, most of them do, and you should always double check that).

    Resources:

    For comparing aftermarket Graphic Cards: https://db.premiumbuilds.com/graphics-cards/

    Motherboard

    The motherboard is the lymphatic system of your build. It draws power from the PSU to be carefully administered to your other components. Some people think that cheaping out on Motherboard is a good idea.

    To a degree.

    As long as your motherboard can handle your CPU power draw, is compatible with your RAM, has enough SATA ports for your storage, has a good number of USB ports and a decent BIOS, it is good to go. Easy right? ...well.

    Here's some research you can do on your own:

    • First, google your motherboard name and manufacturer, then click on Specifications
    • CPU Socket: it has to fit your CPU!
    • SATA, USB, M.2 storage support, all of these can be inspected in the Specification page under Storage, Features or I/O Shield
    • RAM compatibility: In the main spec page there should be a general indication such as "Supports DDR4 3200+(OC)". Further, In the page of your manufacturer, look for "Support" or "Memory Support". For Ryzen, you need to know what architecture your CPU is (Summit Ridge, Pinnacle Ridge, Matisse, etc.), for Intel, the generation should be sufficient. Now look for "Memory QVL" or "Memory Support". This should open a list of RAMs split in brands and frequency. Those rams have been tested and are known to work at the declared frequency on that specific motherboard.
    • BIOS: This one you must research opinions for. A good BIOS lets you overclock or regulate your CPU and RAMs accurately. A good BIOS could be fundamental or entirely optional, depending on what type of user you are. It's not strictly for overclockers, a good BIOS helps recovering, monitoring, and troubleshooting your PC.
    • Fan/waterpump headers and fan control: yup, a motherboard with multiple fan headers will allow you to upgrade and control the airflow of your case. The water pump header is a necessity in case of water cooling.
    • Handling of CPU power draw: this one is a bitch. Motherboards draw power from the PSU and give it to your CPU. This process might incur in two issues: capacity and thermal limitations. Any given motherboard can only draw so much power for your CPU, and it gets hot while doing that. This process is regulated by VRM, Power Phases and Power Chokes. What you need to know is that CPUs with high core count and/or power draw (measured under TDP) are harder to handle and will require a better Motherboard with good dissipation and more power phases to operate well. When it comes to low to low-mid range CPUs, this is not a big concern, the more power the CPU draws, the better the Motherboard has to be.

    Motherboard power draw is very hard to investigate, you need to rely on trusted reviewers (such as Buildzoid, Gamer Nexus, Hardware Unboxed) or tier lists on popular forums/sites/reddits.

    Note that if you plan to overclock, you must have a good Motherboard.

    Tip: the bulk of your work can be done automatically by PCPartPicker system builder. Pick your designated CPU, compatible motherboards will be already filtered. If you pick both CPU and motherboard, RAMs will also be filtered for compatibility.

    Resources:

    For checking compatibility between CPU, MB, and RAM: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/
    A Ryzen motherboard tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/
    Youtubers: Actually Hardcore Overclocking (Buildzoid), Gamer Nexus, Hardware Unboxed
    I've got nothing for Intel, sorry

    RAM

    While PCPartPicker exists, picking a compatible RAM is easy. Picking the right RAM is something else entirely.

    First things first: do never, ever, buy a single stick of ram. You want 2 sticks of RAMs, which should be bought in pairs. I can't advice against buying 4 sticks of RAM, but make sure motherboard supports them or do some in depth research because system stability is at stake. Nowadays, 16gb of ram, rated 3200 to 3600 mhz, with a Cas Latency (CL) of 16 is the norm.

    Ryzen CPUs are particularly sensitive to RAMs. As a rule of thumb you should get 3000-3200 mhz CL16 rams for Zen+, and 3200-3600 mhz CL16 rams for Zen2. You can get better rams, but there's no guarantee they will be stable if they are terribly overpowered for your Ryzen CPU (a good motherboard and a good overclocker might make anything stable with little compromise nevertheless). Lower latency RAMs usually cost more than higher frequency rams, but will not incur in such issues.

    Once again, finding benchmarks for this particular interaction is fairly easy.

    Bottleneck

    Bottleneck is what happens when in a particular task, one of your component (RAM, CPU or GPU) is at the limit of its performance, while the others aren't. Let's cut to the chase: you can not avoid bottlenecking entirely. Bottleneck is hardware, software and settings dependant. You can not make the perfect match, you can only avoid a bad match.

    • Avoiding hardware bottleneck:

    This is extremely dependant on target resolution and refresh rate. CPU has the same workload at either 1080p or 4k. Meanwhile, a given GPU might give you perfect 144 fps at 1080p, and struggle to reach 75 at 4k. The higher your resolution is, the better your GPU needs to be. Conversely, if you know you are playing at 4k and can push 75 fps at most, CPU might aswell be slightly cheaper, because you ain't ever going to use it to its full extent. With consideration for the target resolution and refresh rate, the rule of thumb is: within a given generation of hardware, same range components will not bottleneck each other (a lot).

    • Avoiding software bottleneck:

    Let's say you are playing Cities Skyline at over 100k population. While not much really changed for your GPU, at that point your CPU is probably gasping for watts. Ouch.
    Let's say you are playing AC:Odyssey. Your GPU is probably working at breakneck pace while your CPU is scheduling her counseling (yup, graphics cards are a she).

    The same CPU and the same GPU took turns bottlenecking each other, because the workload for each of them was uneven in each title. This is why if you play only a handful of titles it is a good idea to keep them in mind while you request help or figure out your build.

    • Avoiding user settings bottleneck:

    This is corollary to the previous point. Some specific settings are CPU and/or GPU intensity, and lowering them will make a big difference. This is just here to remind you that you do have some influence over bottleneck, and figuring out a sweet spot where both your CPU and GPU are working close to the same pace is a good idea.

    Resources:

    You can crosscheck CPU/GPU bottleneck with this site but always keep in mind this is at best a rough estimate that feeds off algorithms, and you should never ever obsess over bottleneck unless you're breaking the rule of thumb (same generation, same tier, with resolution and refresh rate in mind): https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu-benchmark-comparison

    Thermal Solutions

    Air or water? The answer is: budget.

    Air is cheap and reliable, meaning that in the worst case scenario a fan stops spinning and you replace it for 10-15€. Air has diminishing returns, meaning that throwing money at it is only going to help so much performance wise. When buying an air cooler, you need to check for its height to make sure it fits in your case and doesn't touch any other component (mostly happens with RAMs and rarely with Motherboard heat sinks).

    Water is expensive, powerful but potentially unsafe. A bad installation, a loose bit, spilled water on a running motherboard, the recipe for disaster. Let's be clear here: water cooling your CPU is a perfectly valid solution (it's the best!), as long as your budget is right. You can't cheap out on a water cooler, because if it breaks or fails it will potentially kill your whole build. If you are going to buy a modest water cooler, my personal recommendation is to go for air instead: you are going to spend less and have literally the same performance. If you can spare more of your budget for water cooling, go ahead. Water cooling has a higher performance ceiling, which means less diminishing returns, which means that as long as you keep throwing money at it, it will get better.

    TL;DR: low into mid range Air cooling wins, mid range to high range Water cooling wins.

    Also benchmarks.

    PSU

    The rule of thumb with PSUs is that they should work between 40 and 60% capacity. Therefore, if your system peaks at 400 watt, you want a 600w GPU at the very least. You can calculate your peak wattage with PCPartPicker, but for accurate results you should add every single piece of hardware you have.

    Some people cheap out on the Power Supply. Those people have a good chance at frying their system.

    Here's a PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

    There's a reason B/B+ tiers are recommended for discrete GPUs while C tier is explicitly recommended for integrated GPUs. PSUs distribute power in 3 voltages: 12v, 5v and 3.3v. Each of this voltage feeds different parts of your build, and the entire PSU wattage is split between them depending on the PSU intended purpose. Which means that a 600w PSU might be unable to mantain a 400w dGPU system stable because GPU or CPU are starving. This is an hyperbole to drive the point home. Do not cut corners on your PSU. It's likely most of those C tier do not have such issues, but I do not suggest to take any chances with that.

    I have literally zero idea what's inside of a PSU, and I honestly don't care. There are things you can not understand. Some things you simply, merely, can only, at best, care about. PSU is one such thing.

    Case

    A case is not merely cosmetic. A good case will support multiple fan configurations, have great cable management, and most importantly will fit all your components. Once you account for all of that, you can pick a case based on your taste. So here's what to consider before you even begin to care about aesthetics.

    • Motherboard form factor
      Motherboards come in different form factor. From bigger to smaller size. extended ATX > ATX > Micro ATX > Mini ATX. Cases specs will always mention form factor. It is a good idea to pick a roomy case, as it hugely helps airflow.
    • Number of fan slots and length
      At the very least, there should be 2 front fan slots, and 1 rear fan slot. If you opt for a water cooler, you should keep in mind the length and width of the radiator, because it's going to be mounted on fan slots.
    • Cable management
      This is a tough one. You need to rely on reviews because it's impossible to tell how good a case is at cable management without trying to build anything into it first.
    • GPU length
      Specs will often mention the maximum GPU length. Do never exceed that and don't get to close to the limit either.
    • USB support matching your motherboard
      Crosscheck motherboard and case specs.

    A few words or airflow. Positive and negative pressure are a measure of how much air is getting in your case versus how much air is getting out of your case. If you push more air out, it's negative pressure. If you push more air in, it's positive pressure.

    Based on my own tests and everything I could find on the internet about it, I firmly believe positive air pressure is better than negative air pressure. Not only dust filters are going to keep your case dust free for longer while you have positive pressure, it is also that much better for GPU temps. Negative air pressure is still valid, I simply think it is inferior.

    Now Build It!

    Let's help the guy who requested help earlier.

    Hello, I own a 1440p/75hz monitor, I want to play AAA titles at ultra and my budget is about 1200€. I prefer AMD, want RGB (unless it's over my budget), and have a mid tower UL7R4 C00L PC case themed red. I also need some advice on water cooling.

    He wants to play AAA/ultra at 1440p/75hz. Let's assume he lives in Europe. A 2060 Super or a 2070 super will do him good. Let's check benchmarks: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3486-nvidia-rtx-2060-super-and-2070-super-review-benchmarks . Well, the 2060s could keep up with that for the time being, but if there's any budget headroom, a 2070 super would do him better.

    Now let's pair his GPU to a decent CPU. He needs to push at least 75 fps in the most demanding games. GPUcheck says R5 3600 will not bottleneck the 2070, which is cool, but gpucheck is good at a sight, you still need to check crossbenchmarks if you can find any, in this case you should look for the difference between 3600+2060s and 3600+2070s at 1440p. Here's something:

    2070s + 3600 @ 2k*1440p (ultrawide) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0xdYMInuiA
    2060s + 3600 @ 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfc9cXWYtBk

    All fine. 2070s can handle 1440p/75hz like a breeze and will max anything you throw at it for the next 2-3 years.

    I'll just put the CPU and GPU in PCPartPicker, put a Tomahawk because it works with literally anything, and grab the best rams for a R5 3600 and the most reliable PSU I can find.

    https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BNfG8M

    There, within budget.

    Does it even matter that there's no case? I mean you can stretch a bit, right? Right?

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    Our Gaming and Streaming PC Build

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 10:14 AM PDT

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRjlYJGFJ0&t

    This is a pc we built for my brother. We think it's a really good build for under 1k and created the video above with it. If you would change anything what would it be?

    CPU - Ryzon 5 3600

    Motherboard- Asus Prime B450M-A

    RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 5 @ 3600Mhz

    GPU- RTX 2060 KO

    PSU- Corsair CX550M 550W

    Case- Fractal Design Meshify C

    Main HD- Western Digital NVME 500 GB

    Total cost : 947.43 USD or 1289.93 CAD

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    Is the 2060 Super enough for 1440p at Ultra settings (at least 100fps)?

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 01:08 PM PDT

    Some games I'm looking forward to: Avengers, Cyberpunk 2077, and similar AAA titles. I also play Overwatch and Warframe, but seems like those games my setup is overkill for at 1080p (paired with a Ryzen 5 3600). I'm considering a 1440p 144hz monitor. I know my card likely can't handle a stable 144fps in AAA new titles, but getting at least 90-100 would be great.

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    After lots of thought and work I finally built my first pc!

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 09:41 AM PDT

    As a 14 year old I'm very happy to have built this pc. I spent years researching this stuff and I think it was totally worth it! Here's my build!

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    First PC build! Simple white and black theme

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 01:14 PM PDT

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    Gtx 750 vs rx 460.

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 01:12 PM PDT

    Theoretically let's say that they were both 2 gb. In my system I have 2 sticks of 4gb 2400mhz crucial ballistix and I also have a ryzen 3 3200g. Which card is better for gaming?

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    New pc and new to pc!

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 01:11 PM PDT

    Hey guys, I have a couple questions. I am very new to pc building and pc's in general.. so with that being said. Is the following listed a good build for gaming and streaming? Just gaming? Just streaming? Any input will be appreciated. I already bought all these parts just wanna know what y'all think or what I could possibly upgrade in the future. What are y'all a thoughts? Good? Bad? Great?

    If y'all wanna go in detail about each part and what each part is good for etc. that would be great! Thanks I'm advance guys!!!

    PC parts:

    AMD Ryzen 7 2700x

    Asrock B450M Micro ATX Motherboard

    G.Skill Ripjaws 16Gb DDR4 (2x8) 3200

    WD Blue 3D 1TB SSD M.2 2280

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 XC

    Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 550W 80+ Gold PSU

    Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid-Tower Case

    Once again, thank you for all who will respond!! I hope y'all have an amazing day 🤙🏽

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    Razer Ripsaw HD Capture Card showing black screen? Not registering PS4

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 11:28 AM PDT

    Hello everyone, I'm really sorry if this isn't the right place to post. If it isn't, let me know and I'll try to find somewhere else.

    I ordered a Razer Ripsaw capture card to hook up to my PS4 and I have it all connected properly. I know it's connected correctly because when I switch my monitor to HDMI2, it registers that SOMETHING is there and turned on and when I unplug it, the monitor says "no signal" and turns off. So everything is plugged in correctly but the PS4 isn't showing and it's just a black screen.

    I've tried looking up Youtube videos but I guess this capture card isn't too common so I haven't found anything helpful and the manual just stops after the wire setup. Spent a lot of money on this and was really looking forward to streaming Ghost of Tsushima so any help would be really appreciated.

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    My GPU fans aren't spinning when the PC turns on. The rest of the fans (case and CPU) are

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 01:01 PM PDT

    if i were to use a Ryzen3200G with Vega 8 integrated graphics, Would attaching a Gtx 550ti do any good?

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 12:55 PM PDT

    i have this old video card, and im currently making a new build, using the Ryzen3200G. would the old video card help/improve performance in any way?

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    R9 3950X Workstation & Gaming (Flight Sim 2020) - Pre-Build Review

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 06:00 AM PDT

    Am planning to build a new machine around 3950X - don't do a lot of gaming but new Flight Sim 2020 is a good excuse to update my current machine.

    I've put together the following build - intend to purchase in next day or two:

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor £671.41 @ Amazon UK
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler £81.52 @ Amazon UK
    Thermal Compound Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste -
    Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard £356.99 @ Amazon UK
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory £303.46 @ Scan.co.uk
    Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £265.37 @ Box Limited
    Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING X Video Card £249.97 @ Box Limited
    Case Fractal Design Define 7 ATX Mid Tower Case £139.99 @ CCL Computers
    Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £139.99 @ CCL Computers
    Case Fan Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan £18.68 @ Overclockers.co.uk
    Case Fan Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan £18.68 @ Overclockers.co.uk
    Case Fan Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan £18.68 @ Overclockers.co.uk
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total £2264.74
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-17 14:39 BST+0100

    Intend to use the system for:

    • Workstation (largely programming)
    • Some gaming (FS 2020) @ 1440p144 (although i only have 1440p60 monitors atm)

    Other objectives:

    • Quiet as possible
    • Motherboard may seem overkill, but will be plugging in additional m.2 cards & SSD storage.

    Specific areas I had questions:

    • Waiting on RTX 30 - all I need for now is fairly basic quiet gfx card, that can drive 1x 4k60 + 3x 1440p60 monitors
    • Wasn't sure of a quiet PSU - went for a good corsair with higher power delivery than I think i'll need. Let me know if theres a good quality quiet PSU that would be a better choice.
    • The CPU fan is large, but its a good+popular one - have had issues previously with large fans fitting on motherboard and not blocking something - is there a way to validate the above combination? (EDIT: found this - looks like it should be fine)
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    What's up with my motherboard/ gpu?

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 10:53 AM PDT

    Either the pci slot is too small or the graphics card connector is too big

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    Built this for 1440 ultrawide gaming

    Posted: 16 Jul 2020 10:15 PM PDT

    (https://imgur.com/N67RPz7)

    (https://imgur.com/yia7Nad)

    (https://imgur.com/Po0d1OJ)

    (https://imgur.com/GeyOtOd)

    Ryzen 3700x

    Asus TUF Gaming X570-plus

    16gb GSKILL Ripjaws 3600mhz DDR4

    Powercolor RX5700 Red Dragon

    x2 WD Black SN750 500gb

    Seasonic FOCUS Plus 750w

    Cooler Master MasterBox MB530p

    The story on this build is basically that I originally built this with a Corsair RM750x that made an audible "pop" noise followed by The Smell after about a month. Needless to say the psu got ripped out, exchanged the mobo and cpu (I love you Microcenter), and built again when I finally got my hands on another power supply. This time I went with a Seasonic which I was able to get a few weeks before Corsair finally shipped me a new psu. Then just added the cooler master SF240r to the top of the case and swapped the stock exhaust fan with a sickleflow.

    Aura sync is neat although this board only has one argb header. It runs 1440 ultrawide great with pretty much everything except Red Dead basically. Can still get ~50fps in towns though, with a mix of medium and ultra settings in the right places. Modern Warfare for ex is about 75-95 fps depending. This gpu does seem to get a bit toasty - ~69C package, ~86C junction at full load. The goal was to hit a good sweet spot for Freesync with a straightforward air-cooled build. Loved building this - would do again.

    Yes that obnoxious red LED at the bottom is a sound card. Its out of my old machine, don't hate. :D

    Built my old PC in 2012, this one reminded me how much I enjoy building. Playing with this over quarantine has been incredibly satisfying. I hope you all enjoy seeing my new build.

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    Loud pop from PSU but PC works fine?

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 08:39 AM PDT

    I have a grey-labelled Corsair TX650M.

    This first happened a few days ago when the PC was sitting powered off but switched on through main plug. Suddenly a loud pop (like a balloon bursting) sound came from the PSU. Yesterday, the same thing happened again when I pressed the power button. There was no smoke/smell. Everything else seemed fine - PC was booting up fine when I hastily turned off the main switch. All other appliances were unaffected. I also played RDR2 quite a lot after it happened for the first time and everything worked normally.

    Today I removed the PSU and tried to take a look. Nothing seemed to have burnt or melted (from what I could see from outside the covering). For now I hooked up my old VS450 but I don't trust it too much. Has anyone had a similar experience? Should I continue using it? I heard modern PSUs are self-destructing in such circumstances so at least my PC should be safe. During these times there is lack of transport for an RMA so it will be quite a hassle. Please help me out. Thanks!

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    My pc is getting no signal to my tv

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 11:55 AM PDT

    I just built my first pc and after like 2 hours I switched it on and then connected it to my TV(I don't have a monitor yet and I googled that you can use HDMI to connect a pc to a TV) at first it didn't work so I switched the HDMI cable from the motherboard port to the GPU port still no signal.

    All my fans are running and so is the GPU

    Is the TV the problem or is there something I missed

    Specs:

    Ryzen 5 2600 A320 micro atx Gtx 1650 16gb ram 250gb ssd 1tb hdd 650w psu

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    Workstation Build

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 07:57 AM PDT

    https://imgur.com/a/JtokUmm

    finally completed my workstation build for working in/with VMs and of course some gaming.

    used my old Cooler master HAF 912 Case. had this thing for 5 years and its such an awesome case. not building a rave in my computer like is all the rage these days :P

    Specs:

    AMD Ryzen 3900x with a cooler master 212 cooler in push/pull.

    GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE mobo

    64gb Corsair vengence ram @ 2666

    nvidia geforce GTX 1080

    corsair 850 platinum psu

    1GB intel PCIe 1x network card

    over 4TB of storage over multiple drives;

    500gb sabrent nvm, 500gb samsung evo 970 nvm

    500 gb samsung evo 860 + WD blue 500 gb ssd

    1tb WD HDD + 2 more 256gb kingston drives

    Using the 5.25 drive bays for 2 hot swap:

    icy dock 2 2.5 drive bay + iStar 3.5 drive bay and a asus DVD/CD drive (because those still exist lol)

    Also added a 200mm Noctua Fan at the top of my case along with a 120mm noctua on the side panel for more air flow; when side panels could take a fan and are not all glass, lol. Case had 120mm on front and back already.

    Use to use this case for one of my server but retired it now; just turned it all into my workstation.

    Running 2-3 VMs usually at a given time with VMware workstation as i do work in it. Also why i have so much drive space.

    Am very happy with it and loving all the cores/threads for running VMs and still works great for games.

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    What do the drivers do?

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 11:34 AM PDT

    After researching and learning about many parts, I've become aware that certain components require drivers to be installed. What exactly do they do?

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    Trying to find pc parts for cheaper!

    Posted: 17 Jul 2020 11:33 AM PDT

    Can some please tell me where to get good pc parts for rather cheap im broke and my pc right now cant even launch csgo its really bad so would appreciate some help on good placed to get pc parts

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