Build a PC: Simple Questions - February 08, 2020 |
- Simple Questions - February 08, 2020
- A guide to monitor response times
- Which is far more important? 75Hz Monitor but with Free-sync or 144Hz but no Free-sync?
- Dear all: Thank you for not being *Nasty*
- $250 Gaming PC Build 2020 with benchmarks (Using only Amazon)
- Power line vs Ethernet
- When can we expect the next gen of CPU and GPUs?
- Done my first build
- Are there any general diffrences between a 140 mm fan and a 120.
- Is my PC loud or am I being paranoid?
- First full build, and highest performance ever for me!
- Would a 2060 Super bottleneck with an i5-9400f?
- What happened!?
- Buying RAM in advance?
- How does this look for $1500 budget? Any suggestions
- Need help! RAM stuck at 2133 even with XMP enabled!!
- Upgrading from gtx 1060. New RTX 2070 or refurbished 1080TI?
- First Build
- Hey guys I bought a new cpu and mother board i9 9900k and everything is set up but every time I boot my pc it just takes me to bios does anyone have a fix
- Ryzen 5 3600 vs 7 2700x vs 7 2700?
- Rx 5700 issue (and solution!?!)
- Should I be worried?
- NVME M.2 not showing up in BIOS boot order after I cloned from SSD
- Thanks for all the help. Got my dream setup done! What do y'all think?
- Switching from console to my very first PC build ever. Looking for opinions and advice on what I’ve put together.
| Simple Questions - February 08, 2020 Posted: 08 Feb 2020 04:08 AM PST This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:
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| A guide to monitor response times Posted: 08 Feb 2020 10:09 AM PST When I read various PC building subreddits and forums, there seems to be a lot of confusion around response times and what they actually mean. People always ask for 1ms because they believe lower is better, but there is so much more to it than that. Hopefully this guide can provide some context to the specs that manufacturers quote. Understanding response time"Response time" is basically the amount of time it takes for a pixel to change ("transition") from one color to another, typically measured in milliseconds (ms). This is different from framerate or refresh rate of a monitor, typically measured in hertz (hz). Each frame rate has a "refresh window", or the amount of time available for a pixel to switch colors, which is linked to the refresh rate you are running. So if you have a 60hz monitor, that means it will display a new frame every 1/60th of a second, or every 16.67 ms. So as long as a pixel can complete its transition in under 16.67 ms, the monitor can provide a "true" 60hz experience. If a pixel takes longer than 16.67 ms to change, it would be in the middle of a transition when it receives a new instruction to move to a new color, which leads to "smearing" on the screen. Here are some common refresh rates and their corresponding windows:
Notice anything? Even at 240 hz, a "4 ms" monitor is still within the refresh window for a true 240 hz experience. But just because a monitor is advertised as "4 ms" (or even 1 ms) doesn't mean it will be suitable for a refresh rate listed above. That's because any response time you see on a monitor box will most likely be "G2G" or gray to gray. Unsurprisingly, response times change depending on the color that is currently displayed and the color you wish to transition to. Some transitions take longer than others. The "average" response time may be 4 ms, but if certain transitions take much longer than that, you'll still end up with some smearing (usually with dark colors). What about Overdrive?Overdrive is similar to overclocking a monitor, where you can provide higher voltages to the pixels in hopes of achieving faster response times. Usually monitors allow you to select from Off, Low, Normal, or Extreme overdrive modes. Here is an example response time chart with Overdrive OFF, which shows various response times for different transitions. It can achieve an average G2G response time of 5.88 ms with 83.5% of transition happening within the 144hz window. Here is the same monitor with Overdrive set to EXTREME. Now it has an average G2G response time of 1.72 ms, with 100% in the window. Speed and AccuracySo why wouldn't you use the EXTREME mode? Well, response time (speed) is only half of the story. The other half is accuracy, and I intentionally cropped the graphics above to exclude the corresponding accuracy. Here are the full graphics: Frequently, these very fast response times are only possible with very high error rates. This means that in the monitor's rush to transition quickly, they overshoot their target color and have to correct itself. This creates "inverse ghosting", where a lighter trail appears behind moving objects as the monitor corrects itself. To fully understand what a monitor is capable of, you have to consider both speed (response times) and accuracy (overshoot). Usually the ideal Overdrive mode will provide a balance of speed and accuracy. For the monitor above, the Normal OD mode is recommended since it provides near 4 ms average response time with 100% of transitions within the window and almost no overshoot. What about 1 ms?So does that mean 1 ms monitors are useless? Well, yes and no. In theory, a 1 ms monitor with no accuracy issues would provide a very clean image. At 144hz, it would be displaying a frame every 6.94 ms. This means it would be transitioning for 1 ms, and providing a static image for the remaining 5.94 ms. Compare that to a monitor that may need 5 ms to transition, where your eye would be viewing "in between" frames the majority of the time. The thing is, perfect 1 ms monitors don't really exist. The monitor discussed above is an IPS monitor that is advertised as 1 ms. And yet the 1 ms spec is only kinda-sorta achieved via the Extreme overdrive mode (to 1.72 ms G2G), which introduces very poor accuracy. I don't think that's a tradeoff many people would knowingly make. How to evaluate monitors?So instead of trusting manufacturer specs, understanding the differences in monitor types is a great place to start. It can help you weed out unrealistic figures. Generally speaking, TN monitors provide the fastest response times, then IPS, then VA. So if a VA monitor advertises 1ms response times, it's a safe bet that those are fudged in some way. (Yes, that is from a review for a VA monitor that advertises a 1ms peak response time and 4ms G2G, yet neither of those are achieved.) But the best way is to seek out expert reviews for the monitors you are considering. I've linked to both TechSpot / Hardware Unboxed and tftcentral in this guide, and they both provide great testing and commentary in their reviews. (If there are other sites / reviewers, please let me know!) Reviews that point to the advertised response times and state "this monitor has great response times" are almost worthless. Keep in mind that the exact monitor you are researching may not have a review from one of these sites. In this case, you may want to look up the LCD panel being used, and see if another monitor that uses the same panel has been reviewed. The results may not be 100% applicable (since each manufacturer uses a different overdrive implementation and other design differences) but it may give you an idea of the physical speed limitations of the panel itself. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Which is far more important? 75Hz Monitor but with Free-sync or 144Hz but no Free-sync? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 03:04 AM PST I'm currently ordering a GTX 1660 Super and I have no more budget to buy a G-sync monitor. So it's either I cancel my GTX 1660 Super, save enough money and get a RX 5600 XT with a 75Hz monitor or go with my GTX 1660 Super and get a 144Hz monitor with no G-sync/Free-sync. A monitor with Sync technologies makes a huge difference in pricing in my country, a 1080p monitor with 75Hz with Free-sync is only has a $15-20 difference with a 144Hz monitor with no Sync technologies. Is Sync technologies even more important than Refresh rates? [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Dear all: Thank you for not being *Nasty* Posted: 07 Feb 2020 06:14 PM PST This is a communal "thank you". I made arrangements to trade some stuff I didn't need (which was brand new) for an older GPU for a computer I am building for my son. As this was a fairly low value transaction, we arranged for a porch pickup given our opposing schedules. When I got home, I started to look over the GPU. It was dirty, but no big deal. I knew it was used. I set it down. Then I saw the bugs. Plural. Everywhere. The heat sink was infested with baby roaches. The card went directly into the garbage. I shot him a message and he responded with "I thought I got them all." JFC. So cheers to everyone who takes care of their stuff, deals honestly, and demonstrates respect in transactions. I just wanted to say I've never appreciated it more than now. Pic of the HDMI port with resident. I did not have the presence of mind to take one as I was too busy stomping out the infestation on my back porch. Nasty GPU https://imgur.com/a/VOYq4Vv [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| $250 Gaming PC Build 2020 with benchmarks (Using only Amazon) Posted: 08 Feb 2020 11:59 AM PST Hello! I built this super low budget gaming PC with the following components. This was a really fun build, as I was trying to stay under $250, while also seeing how much performance I could get out of this system. ( I was eventually able to get PUBG to over 60 FPS @ 720p overclocked) CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G Processor with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H SSD: Lexar NS100 2.5" SATA III (6GB/S) 128GB Solid-State Drive PSU: Apevia CAPTAIN470W ATX Power Supply with All Black Cables RAM: Patriot Signature Premium DDR4 8GB (2x4GB) 2666MHz CASE: ROSEWILL Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case (SRM-01) video of gaming benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J5iYl6y5oM&feature=youtu.be [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 08:03 AM PST Will this power line extender be close to if not as good as wired connection to my computer? If not anyone know of better ones? [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| When can we expect the next gen of CPU and GPUs? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 07:12 AM PST I'm planning to make a new build soon, earliest possible is middle of March. However I can extend to end of May if a new line of products is releasing between now and then. I believe AMD is one release away from adopting a new socket (AM4+? Am5?). But May is my absolute cap, so any lineup that comes after that is off the table. If nothing notable is getting released by May then I'll just make the new build ASAP. Thanks [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 06:41 AM PST EDIT: more photos
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| Are there any general diffrences between a 140 mm fan and a 120. Posted: 08 Feb 2020 06:31 AM PST Basicly, does size matter? I'm thinking that if my case supports 140 it's worth to buy 140 mm fans instead of 120 mm. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Is my PC loud or am I being paranoid? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 12:08 AM PST Hiya. I recently built my new PC, everything seems to be fine except for the noise, even in idle. Here are the components that might be causing it. CASE : Zalman Z11 Plus. FANS : 3x Arctic F12 CPU COOLER : Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO. The case fans spin at around 500-600 RPM, the CPU fans spin at 900-1000 RPM, both when idling. Are these speeds normal? How loud are my fans supposed to be? They're all screwed in tight, btw. Thank you guys! [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| First full build, and highest performance ever for me! Posted: 08 Feb 2020 04:23 AM PST Nearly build ready Build Help/Ready:Have you read the sidebar and rules? (Please do) Yes What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better. Mostly gaming with some CPU-bound problem solving and occasional video encoding. If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings) I will eventually get a 1440p 144Hz monitor, and I want to play current games on ultra. I hope to also someday get VR. What is your budget (ballpark is okay)? $1400 or a little bit more. (just tower, already have peripherals) In what country are you purchasing your parts? US, with a Micro Center nearby. Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).
Provide any additional details you wish below. I have X570 for future use of PCIe 4. I chose the WD black instead of blue because of the longer warranty, 5 years vs 2 years. I think the next possible upgrade is GPU, but 2080 SUPER is an extra $190. Worth it for VR or 144Hz? What about a Noctua NH-U14S for overclocking the CPU ($64)? Edit: Thank you!Went with the 2080 SUPER. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Would a 2060 Super bottleneck with an i5-9400f? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 04:51 AM PST I was wondering if the GPU would be bottlenecking due to the CPU and by how much would it bottleneck? Thanks for the answer! [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 09:33 AM PST Trying to install ubunto from a flash drive (used rufus) and this comes up when I try to install it. Please help! [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 06:13 AM PST Hi, I was thinking about buying 2 x 16 GB of RAM right now while it was so cheap and potentially selling one of them to my friend. We will both be building in the summer (U.S.) but I have heard that it may be worth it to buy right now while prices are so low. I was going to try and buy everything else at the same time but would it be worth it to buy RAM right now when I can get 2 x 16 for $124? Thank you! I saw some pretty consistent belief that I should wait in case i end up deciding against it!! I appreciate that. I'll probably wait in case any insane expenses come up. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| How does this look for $1500 budget? Any suggestions Posted: 08 Feb 2020 02:45 AM PST
I haven't decided on a monitor yet, but I'm looking for a good deal on a 120hz or 144hz LCD or LED display. Any recommendations or suggestions are welcome! Thanks! [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Need help! RAM stuck at 2133 even with XMP enabled!! Posted: 08 Feb 2020 02:01 PM PST Hey guys so I recently created a build and it seems like my G skill trident z neo 3600 is stuck at 2133 even though I have already enabled xmp as show in the pic https://imgur.com/a/XKdNTQ2 not sure whats happening but hope you guys can help.. My MOBO is an x570 Taichi version 2.70 (latest version I believe) and heres the exact ram I bought https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Trident-288-Pin-3600mhZ-F4-3600C18D-16GTZN/dp/B07WGQZTKB Any help would be much appreciated! thank you! [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Upgrading from gtx 1060. New RTX 2070 or refurbished 1080TI? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:58 PM PST So I'm looking to upgrade my gtx 1060 6gb next week and am looking at a refurbished gtx 1080ti Aero or a new RTX 2070 Windforce. Both going for $399. Is the RTX series more future proof or should I get the 1080? I have an i7 6700k and am planning to play 1440p 60fps on majority of games. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:46 PM PST Just want your guys opinion. Please be honest and talk about what u would change or get rid of. https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/xVn927 This build will be used for mainly gaming but will be used for school work. The games i'll most likely play will be Overwatch, Ark, Minecraft, Rocket League, CSGO, Rainbow Six and battle field V. All will be played at 1080p, and in future will get 1440p [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Ryzen 5 3600 vs 7 2700x vs 7 2700? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:17 PM PST Currently, they're at about the same price. I'm trying to decide which to buy, as the 2700x and 2700 are almost half off right now on Newegg, but I've heard the Ryzen 5 3600 has better performance. Any feedback is appreciated. Edit: I'll be using it for gaming, recording, and just browsing, yt, stuff like that. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rx 5700 issue (and solution!?!) Posted: 08 Feb 2020 08:40 AM PST So about a month ago, after many other builds for friends and relatives, I finally got to build my very own. Ι decided to go with a ryzen 7 2700x, a saphire Rx 5700 pulse and the ASRock b450m steel legend. What I quickly noticed is that it was running hotter than I expected idling and under heavy load and often reaching 85-90 (which as I read is common but it is still more than many reviews). What concerned me was that some games like metro Exodus, tomb raider etc were kinda lagging on high-ultra setting with big drops at times. Tweaking fan speeds, changing settings and various troubleshooting steps only made little difference. And here comes today. A friend of mine had a problem with his PC and brought me his gpu and ram to check if any of those were dead. I removed mine and installed his to see if it works(it did work) and then put mine back on. After the reinstallation of my gpu and running some games the difference with before was HUGE. Games run smoothly at every setting and the temps max at 60 at most. Same thing with previously run benchmarks that now complete with much lower temps. And the question is: wtf happened?? I doubt it was not installed correctly since it would have other issues. Nor could it be a driver's issue since 1: nothing changed with before and 2:the ssd was and is brand new. I started to thing that maybe it is a problem with the sensors but it is also noticeably less hot(touching the tempered glass etc). Any ideas as to what happened? Don't get me wrong, i don't complain, it is a more than welcome change but I really am curious. Thank you in advance. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:08 PM PST My cpu came in today but the packaging was all banged up and when I shake it I could hear something tumbling around (almost like a little ball or a pin?). Should I be worried and talk to Amazon or am I just being paranoid? It's also my first time attempting to build a pc so I have no idea if this is even an issue or not. pic of packaging [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| NVME M.2 not showing up in BIOS boot order after I cloned from SSD Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:07 PM PST Hello everyone. I'm currently attempting to make my new 1TB 970 Evo plus my boot drive. I have already cloned the operating system from my other Samsung SSD onto the m.2. When I disconnect the original SSD, the m.2 is able to boot up no problem. Once I reconnected the SSD, I checked my BIOS and in the drop down menu, there's no option for the M.2 in my boot order anymore. I'm relatively inexperienced in building PCs, as I have only built 1 before and didn't have to go through this process. My specs are down below. i7 9700k RTX 2060s Rog Strix Z390 e-gaming 32GB RAM [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks for all the help. Got my dream setup done! What do y'all think? Posted: 08 Feb 2020 01:00 PM PST
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| Posted: 08 Feb 2020 11:24 AM PST My budget is quite low but I began with the "moderate gaming pc" on pcpartpicker and made some adjustments. I'm not looking for a very high end build. Just something I can play things like Destiny and other FPS games on that outperform console. Before I finalize and begin purchasing parts I'd like to have some eyes with experience look over what I have. Any suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated. The current price listed for this build on pcpartpicker is just about what I can pay. Maybe a little more. Edit: I'm starting with a 500gb SSD and plan to upgrade storage in the future. Thanks in advance everybody!
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