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    Build a PC: Simple Questions - July 29, 2020


    Simple Questions - July 29, 2020

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 05:11 AM PDT

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

    • Is this RAM compatible with my motherboard?
    • I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1070. Which one should I get?
    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    Just bought rtx 2060 already happy

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 04:19 PM PDT

    Coming from rx580... its more than expected. Not sure if I made a mistake since 3000 series is coming out but right now I would rather have this for hopefully a few years until a new upgrade

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    Learn from my mistakes: Research EVERYTHING, THEN buy.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 09:56 AM PDT

    I just thought I'd share my experience here since the only other logical thing I can think of doing is making a goofy YouTube video with multiple characters depicting different parts of my brain and how I jumped the gun on researching parts. I recommend listening to "Time to Pretend" by MGMT while reading this absolute BOOK. It's time to pretend I didn't waste over $1k.

    It should be a well known thing: research everything you're planning on buying from specs down to why/if you need it. I recently bought an i9-9900k (recent, like June). I've been very out of the loop as far as technological advancements in CPU/GPU developments (and everything else computers) as I was finishing up my final year of college. I basically went from full nerd in my freshman year with an i7-4770/GTX 970 to being completely clueless. I also sort of evolved from PC gamer to filmmaker.

    Give or take 5 years pass by and I'm thinking "I need a new PC to edit 4K footage and VFX with 0 hiccups," not necessarily thinking about games too much. I then recall hearing a lot about "i9" processors and how they're great for productivity... I've also had an i9 build in PC Partpicker for over a year now. This is where I went wrong.

    Suddenly, we're in quarantine. I NEED something to distract me. I keep thinking about a blaaaazing fast computer and how simple life would be if Adobe Premiere/After Effects ran like a hot knife through butter. Then, one morning, my mom wakes me up and says she's going to Microcenter, so what do I do? I reserve an i9-9900k for $450.

    Me: "WOOAH this thing is so strong and I got it for under $500!"

    I wake up the next day and 10th gen processors are all over my newsfeed. Cheaper with better performance??? F***********K!

    I built my system around impulse-buying a decently outdated (especially if we're talking about price/performance) CPU.

    • This also means I bought an LGA1151 socket motherboard. Even if I wanted to sell this CPU for a 10th gen, I'd have to sell the motherboard too.
    • Of course, the 3200MHZ DDR4 ram I bought is capped at 2133MHZ because i9 doesn't support higher?????
    • I can't think of another bad thing to add to this list, but I think short lists look better with at least 3 bullets.

    ...I also bought an RTX 2060 6 months BEFORE I realized I wanted to build an entirely new system.

    ......So then I had an RTX 2060 SC and an i9-9900k. I see that they don't perform that well together, "If you're going to spend $500 on a CPU, DOUBLE that for a GPU." - People on the internet... despite my EYES not being able to tell a damn difference.

    ............SO NOW I go on ebay and buy a GTX 1080Ti SC for $560, and I'm thinking "I'm f****** stupid. This whole thing was so dumb I could have saved so much money and had a more powerful PC."

    But you know what? Maybe I am stupid, but this computer is also stupid fast and perfect for my needs. Editing and rendering is a dream... now imagine if I had a 10th gen- NO! STOP IT BRAIN!

    I'm trying to look at this as a lesson learned, and you should too- if you're a newb to building. I thought I knew everything about PC's, and maybe I did 5 years ago. I thought I was totally in the clear to make that initial CPU purchase.

    And don't get me wrong, the i9 is a powerful processor. I just didn't know how much it was NOT worth it to invest in currently. I should have paid more attention to... the future!

    I can't be mad at anyone but myself. Just disappointed. I know better than to waste money like this. There I was thinking I was being frugal LOL. However, I'm eternally grateful that I was even able to save that money to begin with. It's a privilege to be able to buy computer parts with money saved. I know a lot of people struggle with that, so this computer will be fully utilized for work as intended. So far it's made editing a joy!

    TL;DR: I built what I call "The 2020 Impulse Build - Buyer's Remorse Edition." https://pcpartpicker.com/b/XFPnTW

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    New to PC. This will be my first PC but I want last minute advice :)

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 07:22 AM PDT

    All the prices or what's close to it are on the right. The budget was 600 but I went over slightly.

    CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 - 159.99

    MB: ASRock b450 - 69.99

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance (8x2, 3600mhz)-64.51

    SSD: Crucial P1 500gb - 59.99

    GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1650 super - 169.99

    TOWER: Deepcool matrexx - 34.99

    Thermaltake 600w -54.99

    WiFi adapter - 15.99

    Total - 630

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    Mission Accomplished!

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 10:31 AM PDT

    I've always wanted to do my own build, and I've been drooling over a lot of the builds on /r/sffpc. It was a challenge, but the reward was well worth the effort in the end.

    So here's my build, a Brickless S4M | Ryzen 7 3700x | Zotac 2070 Super Mini.

    I tried to be as step by step as possible for anyone else that wants to build their own S4M or anyone interested in the challenges of SFFPC.

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    Hey guys, just want to share the PC I’m going to build in 2 weeks and have ordered all the parts which will be arriving soon!

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:10 AM PDT

    CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 with stock Wraith Stealth Air Cooler

    GPU: ZOTAC NVIDIA RTX 2060 6GB

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3600Mhz

    Storage: Crucial P1 1TB SSD (Not gonna store too much files anyway so just went with full SSD for the speed)

    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNova 650W 80+ Gold

    Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WIFI 6

    Case: NZXT H510

    Monitor: ACER Nitro VG272U P 27"

    Really excited to build this!

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    Ryzen 5 3600 compatible with 3600MHz RAM?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 05:04 AM PDT

    The Amazon Australia listing for the Ryzen 5 3600 notes it has "support for dual-channel 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM".

    The motherboard (alt link) I'm looking at getting says it supports up to 4133 MHz.

    Does it not support 3600 MHz RAM? Would it be a mistake to purchase 2 x 16GB 3600 MHz RAM? Can I only use 3200 MHz or lower RAM?

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    Is anybody else super excited for the budget implications of the Ryzen 4800G?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:35 AM PDT

    I personally won't be buying one because I already have a 3700x but the demo they put out for the integrated graphics is actually super impressive. You could legitimately build a PC capable of playing modern games at a reasonable framerate without even needing a discrete GPU. This could actually be the best way to convert people over to PC who can't afford a proper setup.

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    First build in a long time, want to make sure it's all kosher.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:04 PM PDT

    It's been about 6 years since I've bought a new PC, so I figured I was finally due an upgrade. This PC is meant for gaming, including higher-end graphics games and there's a bit of wiggle room with the budget if there's major gains to be had. I live in the United States.

    I'm buying a Dell 1440p monitor with freesync to hopefully be able to cap my FPS at the right level, though I've never done it before. I'm not too sure how that works, but hopefully this hardware is good enough for that so I can try it out. I'd like to keep my fps 100+, though I've long been used to 1080p and 60 for years.

    Another thing that I had heard about was setting up RAID 0 to stripe across multiple NVME hard drives, to make the disks operate even faster, but I'm not sure if these are the correct drives to attempt something like that, and whether my motherboard will allow it. Any help there would be appreciated.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.99 @ Amazon
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Best Buy
    Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $104.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $89.95 @ Amazon
    Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $89.95 @ Amazon
    Storage *Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
    Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $716.33 @ Amazon
    Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
    Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99 @ Best Buy
    Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $108.78 @ Other World Computing
    Monitor Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor $398.99 @ Amazon
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $2173.92
    *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-29 16:46 EDT-0400
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    Does asus rog strix b450-f gaming need bios update for ryzen 5 3600

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:03 PM PDT

    PC Case similar to the Corsair 220T but ever so slightly bigger.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:02 PM PDT

    So, to cut a long story short I want the 220T. However, I'm also going to be getting a Corsair H100i rgb Pro AIO Cooler.

    The problem is, the cooler ironically wont seem to fit in that case the majority of the time. The main issue placing the radiator on the top being that if you have RGB RAM, which is almost always taller than non-RGB, one of the fans for the cooler wont fit. And if you want to mount it to the front you run the risk of breaking your tubes when trying to route them over your GPU. (And I don't want to mount it to the front anyway)

    Honestly it sucks, because I really love that case but cooling is a big thing for me and I'm kind of sold on the cooler I've selected.

    So if anyone has any other case suggestions that are similar to the 220T in both its appearance and cooling capability that would be fantastic.

    TL;DR Cooler I'm getting more than likely wont fit in the case I want (Corsair 220T), so I need a slightly bigger case that looks the same.

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    recommendations for building pc gamer!!!!!

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:56 PM PDT

    I am thinking of putting together a PC gamer, these are some pieces that I am thinking about, I am missing the processor, the power source and the cabinet, I do not want such heavy games but that it can support a GTA V at a standard level.

    would give me recommendations

    -GTX 1650 VENTUS XS OC 4GB

    -RAM 8GB DDR4 Hyper X Fury

    -Asus TUF H310-PLUS motherboard

    -SSD 120 GB GP

    -Master Hyper coole heatsink

    o Deepcool Captain 240 heatsink

    a ryzen 5 or ryzen 3 would be fine

    Which generation?

    open to all suggestions

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    Why are we still seeing people buy intel over AMD with everything intel are doing?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:46 PM PDT

    Title says it all, I'm confused as to why people buy intel with what they're doing recently, and how much they're charging for 2-5% more performance?

    So yeah, any real reason?

    Edit: thanks for feedback guys, General consensus is that there are some use cases still better suited and familiarity I guess?

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    Does Gigabyte still have fan problems with their GPU's?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:02 PM PDT

    title says it all, just curious because i havent seen any update recently apart from 1 and 2 year old videos on youtube saying that they returned theirs because of the fan sound and rattling. Would like to know, thanks. Specifically for the windforce ones, like this, i was thinking of getting this one. Thanks for your help.

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    ITX recommendations (sanity check)

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:04 PM PDT

    I'm currently looking to downsize my tower to an ITX rig - due to wanting something a touch more portable/wanting to free up some space on my desktop.

    I'm currently running a R5 3600 on an ATX B450 motherboard and am stumped as to whether to upgrade to B550 with the downsize. Are there any really good reasons to pick up a B550 ITX board? The chassis I am planning to use doesn't have type c front panel so an on board header for that isn't a concern and as I already have a NVMe gen3 boot drive, I can't find a good reason to spend an extra £70 for the B550 version of the board I was looking at.

    Basically I'm asking for a sanity check, am I right that in my circumstances there's little to no reason to increase cost of swapping to SFF?

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    Got free older pc.[2008ish] dell studio. Good for gaming?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:04 PM PDT

    Hey yall. I got a free dell studio with an Intel core 2 QUAD set at 2.3ghz. No gpu. (I will buy one). 350 watt psu descent cooling. But its ddr2 with 6 gb?... my question is if I buy 8gb ram or more what kindof gpu could I put in it without upgrading psu?(Its a pciex16 with a 6 pin connector).Wife is gonna use it for lighter games so not warzone or battlefield. Maybe subnautica. IDEAS??

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    Help on upgrading my pc.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:03 PM PDT

    What graphics card and power supply should i get?

    How to improvement my pc?

    AMD Ryzen 3 2300X 3.5GHz, 8GB DDR4, AMD Radeon R7 240 2GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WIFI & Win 10 Home) Black

    These are my pc specs, yes i know they are horrible because i am broke and too dumb to not build it my own but i have the courage to go inside my pc and start switching out parts. but the question for me is whats the best way to improve my pc with terms of recording, editing, and better fps. right now i am stuck on 30 fps with low graphics (max low graphics) on every game. sea of thieves, fortnite, and even mc. and rogue lineage, how would i need to upgrade my pc to not only better fps, but getting high fps while having decent high performance graphics. Is it my graphics card? my cpu? my ram? or memory? anyone who can help i would appreciate it.

    Some games i want to play are civilization 6, doom, far cry 5 and sea of thieves. Im thinking of getting ryzen 3600x but people said i need a strong gpu. If improving my pc does a graphics card important to upgrade as well?

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    New to PC building, reddit and so forth. And completely lost.

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 02:02 PM PDT

    Hello! I'm looking to build a PC, My First gaming PC my budget is around 1000 to 2200. I do love rgb the lights and stuff make it shine I need USB ports and so forth. I already have a monitor, speakers, mouse and keyboard. But mostly looking to build a good pc for some gaming something that can handle 1440p greatly. I could use some helpful tips, reminders or deals I really love the Lian Li Razer RGB case. The cases Lian Li make are pretty neat just a one line of RGB strip on the XL. Anyways sorry! This is a lot of info. But any questions or answers please feel free to chat with me looking forward to meeting this community.

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    amd ryzen processors or intel?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:51 AM PDT

    I'm going to build a pc and I'm going to invest a lot of money on the motherboard so I don't know if I should get one that works best with AMD ryzen or one that works best with intel. I plan on doing gaming and I plan on sticking with Nvidia since other than processors AMD GPUs are nonexistent in my country.

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    Hello friends, I need help with making sure that I have a good build in my hands on PCPartPicker.com

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:30 PM PDT

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q7Rqjp

    Here's the list of parts, I just want anybody to lmk if there are any concerns with this build or comments to add, I'm pretty solid on the gpu and cpu but thats about it and my budget is 1400-1500 I like the current price to be around 1400 though. Thank you!

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    What is the best monitor for competitive gaming for the price

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:30 PM PDT

    [Newbie] So I’m looking for a PC that can run Cyberpunk 2077 as well as other games. Here’s the list of parts that I have:

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 06:47 AM PDT

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $154.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $168.99 @ Amazon
    Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
    Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC BLACK GAMING Video Card -
    Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $95.98 @ Newegg
    Power Supply EVGA 750 W ATX Power Supply $64.95 @ Amazon
    Case Fan be quiet! Pure Wings 2 140 PWM 61.2 CFM 140 mm Fan -
    Monitor Samsung LC27F398FWNXZA 27.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $179.99 @ Samsung
    Keyboard Redragon K551-RGB VARA Wired Standard Keyboard $49.99 @ Amazon
    Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse $69.99 @ Target
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $899.86
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-29 09:44 EDT-0400
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    Motherboard Form Factor help?

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 01:03 PM PDT

    Experience with AMD 3970X/3990X and 3600MHz RAM

    Posted: 29 Jul 2020 12:46 PM PDT

    I just thought to share my experience as others may come across something similar.

    Over the last few weeks I learned that these threadripper CPUs can exhibit interesting behavior WRT RAM compatibility. I have two systems, one with 3990X another with 3970X. Both use Asus Zenith II Extreme Alpha M/B. I know that 3600 MHz RAM is best because you can set IF to 1800 MHz. I have 256GB in both systems and ASUS QVL only lists in that capacity up to 3000 MHz kits from G.Skill and does not list Corsair at all. But G.Skill QVL lists several kits in this capacity and 3600 MHz as compatible with this motherboard. So who is correct?

    I build 3990X system few month back and at the time the only kit available was from Corsair at 3200 MHz. I got it and it's working great not at it rated speed but at 3600 MHz. Later I build 3970X system and by that time various G.Skill kits become available. Over the last several weeks I went through three different kits, 128GB and 256GB, all rated at 3600MHz and on G.Skill QVL. And I had all kinds of very rare intermittent errors. I reinstalled OS just to be sure but it was still happening. Today I needed to compile Tensorflow with GPU support from sources. And that is a big compile. Running 100% on all 64 threads it took 20 minutes. Just for comparing it took 20 sec to compile Linux kernel on this box. And what was happening is that gcc compiler was crashing in various places. The way Tensorflow compiles is very heavy on RAM - it went up to 70GB at times. This was basically a prove that the RAM is glitching. I changed RAM speed to 3200 and made tighter timings. And Tensorflow compiles no problem.

    Note that of cause I run AIDA64 extensively and it did not show any problems. Looks like the giant compile put much more stress on a system that AIDA.

    This is the first time I experienced situation when "official" XMP timings, and approved on QVL compatibility do not work. Because I had problems with 3 different kits I know it's not a RAM. Identical motherboard in another system works at these speeds like a charm, but with bigger and little slower CPU. It's possible that my 3970X is a silicon lottery loser, however I'm not entirely convinced that this is the case. It's more likely that G.Skill is over promising on their speeds and QVLs.

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    Slight Upgrade, MAJOR Win

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 06:54 PM PDT

    A few years back during the mining craze I built a modest gaming rig. An i5-7500 paired with a 1050ti and 8GB of dual channel ram. This week I just did the largest swap that, on paper, isn't that great for my gaming performance but holy hell did it make my life better! I swapped over to a Ryzen 1600x (after already getting 16GB ram and a 2060)... sure maybe it's not a crazy CPU upgrade but I'm no longer stuttering while listening to music and on discord while playing COD. Thank you all for preaching the word of Ryzen and the church of AMD.

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