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    Hardware support: (VideoCardz.com - originally Taobao) New Samsung Odyssey G9 could be the first monitor with VESA DisplayHDR 2000 certification

    Hardware support: (VideoCardz.com - originally Taobao) New Samsung Odyssey G9 could be the first monitor with VESA DisplayHDR 2000 certification


    (VideoCardz.com - originally Taobao) New Samsung Odyssey G9 could be the first monitor with VESA DisplayHDR 2000 certification

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 03:51 PM PDT

    Why are higher end Android smartphones now shipping with so much RAM?

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 07:56 AM PDT

    What the title says, every high-end smartphone now ships with at least 8GB of memory and the latest high-end offerings from OnePlus, Samsung, ASUS, etc. are now shipping with 12GB+ LPDDR5.

    I appreciate there's probably some niche applications that genuinely do require this much memory, but given the increased costs from added components and the extra drain on battery, is there any actual need for a mobile phone to have 12GB RAM?

    iPhones manage their background processes differently, but the 12 Pro ships with 6GB, and the 12 only ships with 4GB, and neither is known for slowdown issues.

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    Intel Rocket Lake Meta Review: 15 launch reviews & 2470 benchmarks compiled

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 02:07 AM PDT

    • compilation of 15 launch reviews with ~1620 application and ~850 gaming benchmarks
    • stock performance on default power limits, no Adaptive Boost, no overclocking, (mostly) default memory speeds, (mostly) Gear 1 for RKL's memory controller
    • only gaming benchmarks under real games compiled, not included any 3DMark & Unigine benchmarks
    • testers used a wide variety of gaming benchmarks settings to create a CPU limit on gaming performance, from 360p 5% percentiles over 720p average fps to 1080p 1% percentiles (check table below)
    • geometric mean in all cases
    • application performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with more benchmarks
    • gaming performance average is (good) weighted in favor of reviews with better scaling
    • TechPowerUp benchmarks were taken with "Gear 2" on RKL, so there is a gaming average with/without TPU's results
    • for Intel's CPUs, K & KF models were seen as "same" - but the MSRP is always noted for the KF model
    • please note, MSRP is tray for Intel, but boxed for AMD (as no other/better MSRPs exists)
    • for the full results check 3DCenter's Rocket Lake Launch Analysis

     

    Review & Link RKL SKUs Appl. Gaming Gaming Setting
    AnandTech 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 34 tests 11 tests 360-768p 5% percentiles
    CapFrameX 11700K, 11900K - 14 tests 720p average fps
    ComputerBase 11600K, 11900K 8 tests 10 tests 720p 1% percentiles
    Golem 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 6 tests 7 tests 1080p 1% percentiles
    Guru3D 11600K, 11900K 15 tests 4 tests 720p average fps
    Hardwareluxx 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 11 tests - -
    Hardware Upgrade 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 16 tests - -
    Le Comptoir du Hardware 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 16 tests 11 tests 1080p 1% percentiles
    Les Numeriques 11600K, 11900K 7 tests - -
    PC Games Hardware 11600K, 11700K, 11900K - 20 tests 664-720p average fps
    Puget Systems 11600K, 11700K, 11900K 9 tests - -
    PurePC 11600K, 11900K 19 tests - -
    SweClockers 11600K, 11700KF, 11900K 7 tests 5 tests 720p 1% percentiles
    TechPowerUp 11600K, 11900K 36 tests 10 tests 720p average fps
    TechSpot 11600K, 11900K - 10 tests 1080p 1% percentiles

     

    A very important question before all tests is about the concrete test conditions, since Rocket Lake can be tested in three different modes: With specification-compliant power limits, with power limits lifted, and under "Adaptive Boost". Some reviews have measured all three modes, but the following performance evaluation concentrates on benchmarks on specification-compliant power limits (with "Gear 1" for the memory controller, though). This is due to the fact that Intel's processors become very inefficient without any power limits. An enormous amount of energy is wasted and the CPU temperature is increased for only a little more performance.

     

    Applications 10600K 10700K 10900K 3600XT 5600X 5800X 5900X 11600K 11700K 11900K
    Core & Gen 6C CML 8C CML 10C CML 6C Zen2 6C Zen3 8C Zen3 12C Zen3 6C RKL 8C RKL 8C RKL
    AnandTech 71.8% 87.2% 100.3% - 88.9% 105.1% 121.6% 81.7% 95.8% 100%
    ComputerB 68.5% 93.4% 113.7% 72.8% 86.9% 112.6% 153.7% 77.6% - 100%
    Golem 68.8% 84.1% 100.1% - 79.2% 103.1% 128.7% 79.6% 95.8% 100%
    Guru3D 65.1% 84.0% 100.0% 68.9% 79.7% 104.5% 139.1% 73.9% - 100%
    HWluxx 67.1% 86.9% 104.8% 70.6% 85.3% 111.6% 137.8% 76.4% 97.1% 100%
    HW Upgrade 64.8% 85.9% 104.5% 72.2% 86.3% 110.7% 139.6% 76.0% 97.8% 100%
    Le Comptoir 70.0% 89.0% 103.5% - 85.6% 108.3% 141.8% 80.0% 94.7% 100%
    Les Numeriq 80.5% - 109.7% 78.6% 90.3% 108.4% 131.8% 86.4% - 100%
    Puget 69.6% 86.5% 99.2% - 87.4% 105.5% 120.1% 84.7% 97.7% 100%
    PurePC 67.4% 85.7% 103.1% - 79.7% 100.6% 125.6% 77.8% - 100%
    SweClockers 67.2% 88.5% 105.9% 72.8% 81.7% 107.9% 137.9% 77.0% 96.3% 100%
    TechPowerUp 72.0% 87.0% 97.4% - 87.5% 103.3% 119.6% 84.9% - 100%
    Average Application Performance 69.0% 87.1% 102.8% 72.4% 84.7% 106.3% 132.1% 79.4% 96.4% 100%
    TDP 125W 125W 125W 95W 65W 105W 105W 125W 125W 125W
    MSRP $237 $349 $472 $249 $299 $449 $549 $237 $374 $519

     

    Rocket Lake cannot achieve any obvious victories on application performance - for that, a higher number of CPU cores is missing. Even purely core-normalized, Intel not reach Zen 3's performance level: In the six-core field, the Ryzen 5 5600X is still +6.7% faster than a Core i5-11600K/KF, in the eight-core field, the Ryzen 7 5800X adds +10.3% to the Core i7-11700K/KF and +6.3% to the Core i9-11900K/KF. The basic positioning "Zen 3 > RKL" can be seen in every single review - no matter if with a short or long benchmark field, no matter if the test setup prefers a higher number of CPU cores or reacts more to IPC and clock rate.

    On the other hand, Rocket Lake doesn't present itself badly in comparison to its own predecessor: The Core i5-11600K/KF adds +15.1% to the Core i5-10600K/KF. Compared to the Core i7-10700K/KF, the Core i7-11700K/KF increases by +10.7% and the Core i9-11900K/KF by +14.8%. Thus, the Rocket Lake top model even comes quite close to the Core i9-10900K/KF even under application performance and despite two CPU cores less.

     

    Gaming 10600K 10700K 10900K 3600XT 5600X 5800X 5900X 11600K 11700K 11900K
    Core & Gen 6C CML 8C CML 10C CML 6C Zen2 6C Zen3 8C Zen3 12C Zen3 6C RKL 8C RKL 8C RKL
    AnandTech 85.2% 93.3% 99.3% - 108.8% 113.3% 111.4% 93.4% 98.5% 100%
    CapFrameX 77.5% - 91.3% - - - 97.9% - 96.8% 100%
    ComputerB 78.5% 89.0% 99.6% 73.8% 92.4% 96.6% 102.5% 84.8% - 100%
    Golem 77.4% 84.2% 91.8% - 92.4% 96.4% 97.9% 88.1% 95.7% 100%
    Guru3D 88.9% 91.9% 96.7% 81.0% 96.3% 97.3% 101.9% 93.0% - 100%
    Le Comptoir 84.3% 89.8% 97.2% - 97.2% 99.9% 98.9% 91.2% 96.6% 100%
    PCGH 77.4% 86.4% 90.2% - 92.0% 96.7% 98.6% 88.7% 93.5% 100%
    SweClockers 80.8% 88.4% 90.1% 68.0% 88.8% 91.6% 90.3% 92.7% 97.6% 100%
    TechPowerUp 94.5% 101.1% 106.8% - 101.2% 105.7% 105.1% 93.7% - 100%
    TechSpot 88.1% 95.9% 102.4% - 96.0% 102.2% 105.0% 92.0% - 100%
    Average Gaming Performance 81.4% 89.2% 95.5% 76.6% 94.6% 98.5% 100.2% 89.8% 96.1% 100%
    Average without TPU 80.7% 88.6% 94.9% 76.4% 94.3% 98.1% 99.9% 89.5% 96.1% 100%
    TDP 125W 125W 125W 95W 65W 105W 105W 125W 125W 125W
    MSRP $237 $349 $472 $249 $299 $449 $549 $237 $374 $519

     

    Rocket Lake generally comes off better on gaming performance and even achieves a point victory over Zen 3 in the pure eight-core field - the Core i9-11900K/KF positions itself ahead of the Ryzen 7 5800X by +1.5%. The fears about a possible "gaming weakness" by Rocket Lake, which were aroused by some pre-release tests, were clearly not confirmed. This just results by AnandTech's test approach, which strongly favors the Zen 3 processors in games, deviating itself from other hardware tests.

    However, Rocket Lake does not quite reach the top, because the Ryzen 9 5900X is even a bit faster (+0.2%). But those differences are of course too small to declare any clear winners. With the addition of other values or just a different weighting, these ranks could well be reversed (just look at the gaming average without TPU's results). Roughly, the Core i9-11900K/KF can be said to have a gaming performance at the absolute top - but not really faster than Ryzen 7 5800X or Ryzen 9 5900X.

     

    In the sum of things, Intel offers a good CPU generation with Rocket Lake, which does many things right and hardly anything wrong. A certain halo effect is certainly missing - something where Intel can really shine. It is then lost that Intel comes close enough to AMD that performance differences are actually no longer noticeable. There is only a noticeable difference with a higher core count in the field of application performance - i.e. with Ryzen 9 5900X & 5950X.

    But in the field of currently sold consumer processors with 6/8 CPU cores and looking for a mix of application and gaming performance, it is hardly justified to assign Intel a clear second place. If the situation were reversed (a few years ago), AMD would probably be showered with praise for its almost equal performance. Thus, both processor series are very viable from the user's point of view.

    AMD Zen 3 vs Intel Rocket Lake Application/Gaming Performance Overview (as diagram)

     

    All launch reviews unfortunately lack benchmarks for the Core i5-11400/F, which should be very interesting from a price-performance point of view at MSRPs of $182 (11400) and $157 (11400F). But meanwhile, the first reviews of these SKUs has appeared:

    Core i5-11400F @ CapFrameX
    Core i5-11400F @ Hardware Unboxed
    Core i5-11400F @ Optimum Tech
    Core i5-11400F @ TechPowerUp

     

    Source: 3DCenter.org

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    Asus RT-AX88U vs RT-AX86U: Are four extra Gigabit ports better than a 2.5GbE port?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2021 01:23 AM PDT

    [VideoCardz] NVIDIA Atlan SoC with Grace-Next CPU and Ampere-Next GPU pictured

    Posted: 12 Apr 2021 01:21 AM PDT

    Is it possible to produce a 8k 120hz CRT?

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 02:47 PM PDT

    Apart from size, weight, burn in, and power consumption. Which I believe are the reasons why crt died.

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    What is the difference between RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) and GPU architecture?

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 02:00 PM PDT

    Asking mainly about the general differences, if needed a specific gpu example would be the GA106-300.

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    Are the 5000 series AMD a paper launch compared to Intel?

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 11:01 PM PDT

    Here in the Canadian market, Intel chips have healthy stock levels with weekly replenishment but the latest AMD processors have been nowhere to be found for months. Are the AMD 5000 series a paper launch? It would be nice if reviewers compared the latest Intel offerings to the 3900X because it's the only high core count CPU from AMD which can actually be purchased.

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    Why do outlets review Intel CPUs with "stock" power limits when Intel designs these values to be configured by your motherboard manufacturer?

    Posted: 11 Apr 2021 03:26 PM PDT

    According to Intel, the PL2 and Tau parameters are designed to be configured based on the power delivery capabilities of your motherboard:

    https://images.anandtech.com/doci/13544/IntelSpec1.png

    Intel engineer Guy Therien explains the intention behind PL2 and Tau:

    Both PL2 and Tau are configurable by the OEM and ODM, and are 'in spec'. So you have the ability, of course, if the power delivery supports a higher power limit, and also if the system has the thermal capability (because it makes no sense if you're just going to thermally throttle), to adjust these values. So motherboard manufacturers and ODMs are investing in their power delivery and thermal solutions to allow them to maximize performance or get a certain about of turbo duration without throttling – to the maximum extent possible. As a result of this you can invest different amounts of money into the power delivery, the thermal solution, the thinness of the system and so on – it's the ability to design something that is differentiated for the audience, both in terms of form factor and performance.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14582/talking-tdp-turbo-and-overclocking-an-interview-with-intel-fellow-guy-therien

    So why do reviewers alter these values when the vast majority of Z tier boards are using custom power limits? It's a bit disingenuous, as the average 11th gen CPU will be using a lot more power and thus run a lot hotter.

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