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    Build a PC: Simple Questions - November 19, 2020


    Simple Questions - November 19, 2020

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 04:08 AM PST

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

    • Is this RAM compatible with my motherboard?
    • I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1070. Which one should I get?
    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    RTX 3070 is still a munch better value than the RX 6800

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:21 AM PST

    I am trying to get more input on your thoughts about the RTX 3070 vs RX 6800. In my opinion the 3070 is still a better value because it's a more polished product all around.Mainly because of the superior RTX performance, DLSS and hardware encoder but also because of the new AI features of the 3000 series.

    Sure the 6800 might have a better gaming performance but considering all the other stuff regarding software and features I just don't see it being worth over the 3070 especially because it's more expensive.(Disregarding availability)

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    RTX 3090/3080/3070 manufacturer comparison list of benchmarked games in 1080p/1440p/4k.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 09:09 AM PST

    RTX 3070 actually enough for 1440p 144hz

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 04:05 AM PST

    Hiya,

    So I am currently on a GTX 970 at 1080p 60hz. (Ryzen 1600 as well).

    Looking to upgrade to 1440p 144hz early next year.

    I'm intending to go for an RTX 3070 as the RX 6800/XT seems to be worse value. But is it actually going to be enough?

    I'm very likely to try rtx on btw.

    Some of the games I currently play;

    WoW Overwatch Apex Destiny 2 Tomb Raider series Cyber Punk when it comes out. I really don't want to have to save/spend more on a RTX 3080 if I don't need to. Considering I am already going to need monitor and PSU.

    Cheers.

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    Today I’m building my first PC!

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 07:47 AM PST

    My last part got here yesterday and I'm really excited (and scared) to get started. I just wanted to post to see if there are any major things I should be aware of or some things you wish you knew before you built your first pc?

    Here's the parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nb7GJf

    These are some of the videos I've watched multiple times these past few days:

    1. https://youtu.be/IhX0fOUYd8Q

    2. https://youtu.be/v7MYOpFONCU

    3. https://youtu.be/hK51upU5bkU

    I've also browsed similar threads, I wanna be as prepared as I can but I'd still appreciate input, thanks!

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    Will 10GB of VRAM enough for the next 2-3 years?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 06:14 AM PST

    I currently have a 1440p 144Hz and I'm in need of a new GPU. I'm thinking about buying either the 3080 or the 6800XT. I'm leaning towards the 3080, but the 10GB of VRAM worries me. It seems too low to make this card futureproof. Do you think it will be enough to play on at least high textures for the next 2-4 years or longer?

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    I am making a 900usd budget build for 1080p 60hz gaming is this ok ?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 06:51 AM PST

    Finished First Gaming Build

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 09:19 AM PST

    Shout out to this sub for all the help. Scrolling through finding people asking questions I didn't even know I had made the process pretty painless.

    Specs:
    Case: phanteks p500a
    Mobo: Asus tuf gaming z490 plus wifi
    Cpu: Intel i5 10600k
    Gpu: EVGA 3070 XC3 black
    Ram: g.skill Trident z 16gb 3200mhz cl16
    PSU: Corsair Rmx750
    Cpu cooler: noctua NH d15

    Feel free to ask me anything about the build!

    PC build for reddit https://imgur.com/gallery/ZGDZEtE

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    I made a list of the approximate relative performance of the most popular GPU's of the last few years. Updated for RX 6800 / XT

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 07:04 AM PST

    q flash plus is scary wizardry

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 09:26 AM PST

    So I got a zen3 cpu and a gigabyte aeiourious x570 mobo with q flash plus posting yesterday.

    I came in knowing i'd most likely need to update the bios before it would see the cpu, but even intellectually knowing that, needing to actually do so is goddamn heart pounding.

    I plugged everything in on a table, powered on, saw the briefest led flash and then nothing, dead. No fans, no post. My mind is going thats ok, it's just not seeing the cpu but my anxiety is going OMFG you killed this mother board, this cpu is fried, you're going to be in RMA hell now for the next 3 months.

    I plugged in the FAT 32 USB stick already loaded with the latest BIOS, file renamed and left in the root drive per the instructions online, I pushed qflash button, and everything lights up, cpu fans start running. the qflash button is blinking and I'm waiting. and waiting, and waiting. several eons later (1 minute) and the qflash LED, now blinking faster and faster until blinks its last blink and goes dead. I hit the start button. pause. ohfuck i bricked this motherboard didn't i? i missed something. i stopped it too soon. eff me.

    Then everything posts! UEFI on the screen, everything is there! set xmp profile, see the nvme in the boot sequence, bios version checks out, cpu is showing up. Everything went as planned, now I just need to get it into the case and install windows and we're complete!

    Done, first post from my new PC!

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    My pc got flooded by the Typhoon

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 04:28 AM PST

    Is there any chance will this machine work again? I leave it on our roof disassembled.

    They said keyboard, psu, and monitor is morelikely dead

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    haven’t really looked at gpu’s in 6 years but what the hell happened

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 08:06 AM PST

    been looking at the rtx 2000 & 3000 and holy when did they get so expensive and why are they all out of stock

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    How we look at GPU price to performance is flawed and should not be considered in a vaccum.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 10:36 AM PST

    Hi, welcome to a relatively long and hopefully well-reasoned discussion on how we view GPU price to performance calculations. I wrote this post as I think the way people view this data is flawed and that GPU price to performance should not be viewed in a vacuum but rather as a total system or even setup cost.

    If we compare a $250 to a $700 GPU, then the percentage increase in price is 180%. Alternatively, you can say that it is 280% more expensive. This looks like massive savings, right? Now let's add a total setup cost of $1000 for the monitor, the rest of the system, peripherals and desk. We're now comparing $1250 to $1700. This is a percentage increase of 36% or you can say that it is 73.5% more expensive.

    This looks quite a bit different using this metric doesn't it? That cheap GPU that's going to provide 1/3 of the performance maybe isn't looking so great anymore because you're already spending so much on other required purchases to make the GPU function.

    I decided to create a spreadsheet that asks for your base setup cost then displays the performance per dollar data of various popular GPUs at various resolutions using benchmark data sourced from Hardware Unboxed on YouTube. I sourced the data from here as they provide a nice game average and it's good enough for the point I'm trying to make here. Worth noting that I used the 1070 data to represent the 1660 super as they seem very close in performance and the 1660s was not tested.

    What did I find out? Budget GPUs are terrible as far as price to performance is concerned unless you can significantly cut your setup cost. Assuming $1000 setup cost the 6800xt is the highest price to performance at 1080p/1440p assuming no DLSS/RTX. The 3080 is the king if we assume 4k. 3070/3080 would poke their heads in at lower resolutions if we assume DLSS/RTX until AMD improve in those areas.

    If I offer you a computer at $1250 that gets 100% relative performance or a computer at $1700 that gets 200% relative performance then I think most people would agree that the more expensive computer is more bang for buck than the lower priced alternative.

    Now I'm not saying there's no use for the lower end GPUs, obviously people have budgets and you can skimp a lower setup cost than $1000 if you go far lower on parts/monitor/desk. Performance is also only valuable up until the user is satisfied, that may only be 30 or 60FPS at 1080p for some people. It's also not an attack on reviewers for the way they present price to performance, they're reviewing the products in a vacuum and do not know your setup cost.

    Simply what I'm saying is that due to many required purchases that do not impact gaming performance particularly significantly, GPU price to performance is not as simple as $/frame for each GPU and rather should be considered as an entire setup.

    I do think it would benefit the consumer if reviewers considered including a few price to performance charts based on setup costs however they clearly work enough as it is on launches and I don't mean to add more work for them.

    Spreadsheet:

    Source of Benchmark Info:

    How I arrived at $1000 setup cost?

    Keep in mind neither of these setups include a monitor, mouse, keyboard, headset, desk or controller and I'd consider 500GB of storage to be borderline unusable for many use case scenarios. They're also parts that the average person would buy after a little bit of research, not the most optimal possible purchase such as the motherboard being more than you likely have to spend.

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    I just wanted to express my gratitude to all of you guys who help solve problems.

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:08 PM PST

    What happens to my free windows 10 student license after I graduate?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:30 PM PST

    What happens to my free windows 10 student license after I graduate, does it lock me out, deactivate or just keep going?

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    Only 50 FPS with a3070 RTX gaming 8 gb oc

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 11:15 AM PST

    Im using a Gigabyte 3070 RTX GAMING 8 GB OC and still get around 50 fps on both Black ops cold war and Modern warfare whats the problem i have ray tracing off and the latest drivers...

    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/35651687

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    Wanting to upgrade from 1050ti to new card

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:13 PM PST

    Im pretty late to the party and have been cruising on a 1050ti, but it's just really struggling at this point. Im looking at that rough 500$ price point and 3070/rx6800 would the play. But is basically impossible to get, would it be a bad idea to just get like a rx 5700 xt, it kinda feels bad to get an older gen card but also I want to play games over winter and not wait 2-3 months for more cards to be available. So do you think it's worth it to wait and just suck it up and wait, or take the L and have a system that can get 60fps on not actually lowest settings?

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    I think im overall done with my build but its too expensive. Can anyone help me find a way to shave off a few €s here and there?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 11:01 AM PST

    The current Price says 1400€ but i would like to get down to 1000€. Is this possible without downgrading from the 3070 and bottlenecking it?

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €203.99 @ Mindfactory
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Turbo (Black) 66.3 CFM CPU Cooler €46.08 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Motherboard Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €115.60 @ Computeruniverse
    Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory €159.93 @ Computeruniverse
    Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €99.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Video Card Zotac GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING Twin Edge OC Video Card €634.80 @ Computeruniverse
    Case Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case €92.60 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Power Supply Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply €55.69 @ Computeruniverse
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total €1407.69
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 19:58 CET+0100

    EDIT: Yall have given me great input! Thanks for that. i now replaced some party and got wayyy lower in the price. Am i good with something like this? PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor €167.99 @ Mindfactory
    Motherboard Asus PRIME B450M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €64.12 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory €59.52 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Video Card Zotac GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING Twin Edge OC Video Card €634.80 @ Computeruniverse
    Case SHARKOON VG5 ATX Mid Tower Case €33.52 @ Amazon Deutschland
    Power Supply Gigabyte P-B 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply €55.69 @ Computeruniverse
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total €1070.54
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 21:59 CET+0100
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    14 year old interested in building my own server pc for Minecraft with no clue where to start

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 01:02 PM PST

    So I own a Minecraft server with 300 members (30 online normally) and due to lag reasons, I've had to set player cap to 18 recently. The server hosting is starting to get expensive, and I've decided to just build a server pc, but I have no clue where to start. I was wondering if someone could give me a estimate and where to start for something like this. Thanks :)

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    Advice on buying a used build

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:50 PM PST

    Should I go for this ? Linked below

    I'm trying to get my first pc for photo and video editing & production and streaming. My budget is 1k and I'm in the process of saving for it and almost have enough.

    There's a marketplace listing for a pc with everything except for a graphics card for 475 it includes

    • i7 7700k
    • 32 gb of G Skill 3200 mhz memory
    • two 500gb sad
    • one 250 ssd
    • Corsair RM750x Power supply
    • NZXT X63 280mm AIO cooler for Cpu
    • NZXT H400i case with RGB fans and lights

    I was going to buy the MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Gaming X 6GB GDDR6

    And put it in would that work?

    pc build

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    SSD or 2TB storage?

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 04:27 AM PST

    I already built my PC but saw that I was already running out of storage because Warzone. I want to get a 1TB SSD but I also saw I can get a 2TB 7200RPM for half the price at double the storage. I already have an M.2 SSD so what should I get? Also if anyone asks what I'm planning to do with my PC is mainly gaming and maybe a little bit of streaming and video editing.

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    PC randomly shutting down

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:20 PM PST

    So whenever I attempt to join a Squad server my PC just restarts, there is no restart screen it just turns off and turns back on again, I've also had this happen randomly in LoL one time but I can't re create it. I get no error messages or anything. I don't have any OCs applied, and when I do it does the same thing. My specs are listed here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnm2xc graphics card isn't exact model, it's a 1 fan PNY. I've run stress tests and the only thing that gets too toasty is my CPU which hits 90C and then thermal throttles to 4.3GHz and drops to 85C. My graphics card doesn't exceed 80C. My stress tests have not resulted in any similar problems.

    Edit: the reason I have a 1060 is I'm still trying to get a 3070

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    RX 5500 XT 8gb

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 12:11 PM PST

    (Reposting because there wasn't much traction the first time around— sorry)

    Hello. I've read recently that the card's performance was greatly improved after the latest drivers were released. Is this true? Is the card worth getting, or are there still a lot of graphical issues that make the card a no-go?

    Where I'm from, the price gap between this card and the 1660 super is way too big (Nvidia cards are a little overpriced in my country). I could also spend a little less to upgrade to a 1650 super, but I feel that the 8gb of VRAM on the 5500xt would help me in modern titles.

    Specs for reference: Ryzen 7 2700, 16gb 3200 CL 16, GTX 1650 OC D5, B450 Mortar Max, 550 watt 80+ bronze, 144hz 1080p display

    I would like to know what you guys think. Thank you so much in advance!

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    Can someone rate this build

    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 04:00 AM PST

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor 310€
    Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard 150€
    Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory 72€
    Storage Corsair MP400 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 110€
    Video Card PNY GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Video Card 280€
    Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case 70€
    Power Supply [Silverstone ET600-MG 600W 80 Plus Gold Modular] 70€
    Monitor [Keep Out XGM24F+ 23.8" LED FullHD 144Hz] 140€
    Keyboard+Mouse [Mars Gaming RGB MCP118 Combo] 17€
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