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Ranting About Power Supply Myths, ft. Jonny Guru [Gamers Nexus]

Posted: 17 Apr 2022 12:44 PM PDT

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Posted: 17 Apr 2022 01:42 AM PDT

compilation of 13 launch reviews with ~1590 benchmarks & ~200 power consumption tests
stock performance on default power limits, no overclocking, memory speeds noted below
only gaming benchmarks for real games compiled, not included any 3DMark & Unigine benchmarks
gaming benchmarks strictly at CPU limited settings, mostly at 720p or 1080p 1%/99th
power consumption if for the CPU (package) only, no whole system consumption
geometric mean in all cases
performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with better scaling and more benchmarks
official MSRPs noted ("Recommended Customer Price" on Intel)
for Intel's CPUs, K & KF models were seen as "same" - but the MSRP is always noted for the KF model
retailer prices based on German price search engine Geizhals (on April 17, 2022)
for the full results and more explanations check 3DCenter's Ryzen 7 5800X3D Launch Analysis

Reviewer	AMD System	Intel System	Windows	Gaming fps
ComputerBase	DDR4/3200 CL14	DDR5/4800 CL38	Windows 11	720p, Frametimes
GameStar	DDR4/3800	DDR4/3800	Windows 10	1080p, 99th Percentile
Golem	DDR4/3200 CL14	DDR4/3200 CL14	Win10 vs Win11	720p, P1%-Fps
KitGuru	DDR4/3600 CL16	DDR5/5200 CL36	Windows 11	1080p, 1% Low FPS
Le Comptoir	DDR4/3200 CL14	DDR5/4800 CL30	Windows 11	1080p, 1er centile
PCGH	DDR4/3200	DDR5/4400	Windows 10	664p-720p
PurePC	DDR4/3600 CL18	DDR4/3600 CL18	Windows 10	1080p, minimum fps
Quasarzone	DDR4/3200 CL22	DDR5/4800 CL40	Windows 11	1080p, 1% Low Framerate
SweClockers	DDR4/3600 CL16	DDR5/6000 CL40	Windows 11	Test 1: 720p, 99th perc. – Test 2: 720p, avg fps
TechPowerUp	DDR4/3600 CL16	DDR5/6000 CL36	Windows 11	720p, average fps
TechSpot	DDR4/3200 CL14	DDR4/3200 CL14	Windows 11	1080p, 1% Lows
Tom's	DDR4/3200 CL14	DDR4/3200 CL14	Windows 11	1080p, 99th Percentile FPS
Tweakers	DDR4/3200 CL16	DDR4/4800 CL36	Windows 11	1080p "Medium", 99p

ComputerBase & SweClockers have each made two gaming reviews: Once with the standard parcour of games, once completely new with new, CPU-hungry games. The results differ significantly in each case.

Appl. Perf.	Tests	5600X	5800X	5900X	5950X	5800X3D	12600K	12700K	12900K	12900KS
Cores & Architect.		6C Zen3	8C Zen3	12C Zen3	16C Zen3	8C Zen3D	6C+4c ADL	8C+4c ADL	8C+8c ADL	8C+8c ADL
ComputerB	(8)	79.7%	102.3%	140.8%	168.3%	100%	102.6%	129.2%	153.9%	158.7%
Le Comptoir	(16)	76.5%	98.6%	128.8%	141.8%	100%	108.1%	130.0%	154.2%	159.2%
PCGH	(6)	75.4%	103.2%	141.8%	168.4%	100%	102.4%	133.8%	158.1%	162.1%
Quasarzone	(11)	-	101.9%	130.7%	152.8%	100%	-	134.2%	155.1%	159.4%
TechPowerUp	(37)	85.2%	102.5%	119.5%	129.8%	100%	99.0%	113.6%	125.8%	129.8%
Power Limit		88W	142W	142W	142W	142W	150W	190W	241W	241W
U.S. MSRP		$299	$449	$549	$799	$449	$264	$384	$564	$739
GER Retail		€219	€319	€409	€539	?	€269	€379	€558	€798

At application performance, Ryzen 7 5800X3D is on average –2% slower as Ryzen 7 5800X.

Gaming P.	Tests	5600X	5800X	5900X	5950X	5800X3D	12600K	12700K	12900K	12900KS
Cores & Architect.		6C Zen3	8C Zen3	12C Zen3	16C Zen3	8C Zen3D	6C+4c ADL	8C+4c ADL	8C+8c ADL	8C+8c ADL
CB #1	(9)	81.0%	85.1%	89.1%	93.1%	100%	86.3%	92.3%	96.8%	96.4%
CB #2	(12)	-	86.1%	-	86.9%	100%	-	-	103.5%	106.0%
GameStar	(5)	76.9%	78.0%	79.6%	-	100%	80.1%	-	92.9%	-
Golem	(7)	-	85.2%	86.3%	89.3%	100%	-	94.8%	98.7%	-
KitGuru	(6)	-	85.9%	87.1%	-	100%	-	94.7%	97.3%	-
Le Comptoir	(11)	84.9%	89.4%	91.3%	92.4%	100%	97.9%	102.1%	105.2%	107.0%
PCGH	(14)	77.0%	82.1%	87.2%	85.1%	100%	84.3%	91.4%	96.4%	99.9%
PurePC	(9)	78.0%	86.3%	92.0%	92.7%	100%	98.6%	107.2%	111.7%	-
Quasarzone	(12)	-	87.5%	89.6%	89.3%	100%	-	100.0%	104.3%	106.1%
SweCl #1	(5)	79.8%	84.5%	84.5%	81.5%	100%	88.4%	-	97.1%	100.4%
SweCl #2	(10)	-	81.7%	-	-	100%	-	-	-	92.2%
TechPowerUp	(10)	85.5%	89.4%	90.4%	89.6%	100%	93.6%	97.5%	100.0%	101.9%
TechSpot	(8)	-	78.4%	81.6%	82.9%	100%	-	-	97.5%	-
Tom's	(7)	-	74.1%	81.1%	-	100%	-	91.7%	93.2%	97.7%
Tweakers	(5)	82.3%	82.3%	88.6%	88.4%	100%	89.8%	93.3%	95.4%	99.3%
Average Gaming P.		79.5%	83.1%	86.2%	87.0%	*100%*	88.8%	94.6%	98.3%	100.9%
Power Limit		88W	142W	142W	142W	142W	150W	190W	241W	241W
U.S. MSRP		$299	$449	$549	$799	$449	$264	$384	$564	$739
GER Retail		€219	€319	€409	€539	?	€269	€379	€558	€798

At gaming performance, Ryzen 7 5800X3D is on avagere +20.3% faster as Ryzen 7 5800X and +16.0% faster as Ryzen 9 5900X. The differences to Intel's top models are minimal: Ryzen 7 5800X3D is on average +1.7% faster as Core i9-12900K/KF and –0.9% slower as Core i9-12900KS.

Gaming Power Draw	Tests	5600X	5800X	5900X	5950X	5800X3D	12600K	12700K	12900K	12900KS
Cores & Architect.		6C Zen3	8C Zen3	12C Zen3	16C Zen3	8C Zen3D	6C+4c ADL	8C+4c ADL	8C+8c ADL	8C+8c ADL
ComputerBase	(9)	-	87W	-	-	61W	-	-	98W	138W
Golem	(7)	-	81.2W	104.5W	107.5W	71.3W	-	81.4W	95.8W	-
PCGH	(14)	56W	80W	101W	110W	70W	88W	106W	129W	186W
Avg. Gaming Power Draw		-	~83W	-	-	~67W	-	~89W	~107W	~149W
Avgerage Gaming Perf.		79.5%	83.1%	86.2%	87.0%	100%	88.8%	94.6%	98.3%	100.9%
Gaming Power Efficiency		-	68%	-	-	100%	-	71%	62%	45%
Power Limit		88W	142W	142W	142W	142W	150W	190W	241W	241W
U.S. MSRP		$299	$449	$549	$799	$449	$264	$384	$564	$739
GER Retail		€219	€319	€409	€539	?	€269	€379	€558	€798

Ryzen 7 5800X3D shines with a lower power consumption at gaming than other AMD processors - and with a much lower gaming power consumtion than Intel. In fact, Ryzen 7 5800X3D reaches more than the double gaming power effiency over Core i9-12900KS.

	Ryzen 7 5800X	Ryzen 7 5800X3D	Core i7-12700K/KF	Core i9-12900K/KF	Core i9-12900KS
Cores & Architect.	8C/16T Zen3	8C/16T Zen3D	8C+4c/20T ADL	8C+8c/24T ADL	8C+8c/24T ADL
Application Performance	100%	~98%	122.0%	140.1%	~144%
Gaming Performance	100%	120.3%	113.8%	118.2%	121.4%
Gaming Power Draw	~83W	~67W	~89W	~107W	~149W
Gaming Power Efficiency	100%	148%	106%	92%	67%
U.S. MSRP	$449	$449	$409/384	$589/564	$739
GER Retail Price	€319-340	(expected) €450-500	€379-410	€558-590	€798-830
Appl. Perf/Price Ratio	100%	appr. 63-69%	103%	80%	58%
Gaming Perf/Price Ratio	100%	appr. 77-85%	96%	68%	49%

No win at any performance/price ratio category for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, if you look at retailer prices. But maybe this is not needed, if you have the fastest gaming CPU around (co-owner of that title with the Core i9-12900KS).

Source: 3DCenter.org

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[HUB] 40 Game CPU Benchmark: Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Core i9-12900K

Posted: 17 Apr 2022 04:16 AM PDT