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    Hardware support: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X Meta Review: 23 Launch Reviews compiled

    Hardware support: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X Meta Review: 23 Launch Reviews compiled


    AMD Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X Meta Review: 23 Launch Reviews compiled

    Posted: 19 May 2020 07:54 PM PDT

    • geometric mean in all cases
    • stock performance, no overclocking
    • compilation of 23 launch reviews with ~1420 application benchmarks & ~310 gaming benchmarks
    • gaming benchmarks not on average framerates, instead with 99th percentiles on 1080p resolution (AnandTech: 95th percentile; Golem & PCGH: 720p)
    • Core i3-9100 instead of 9100F at PCMag, Tom's Hardware & Tweakers
    • Core i5-9400 instead of 9400F at Lab501, The FPS Review & Tweakers
    • list prices: Intel tray, AMD boxed; retail prices: all boxed
    • retail prices of Newegg (US) and Geizhals (DE = Germany, incl. 19% VAT)
    • performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with more benchmarks and more tested CPUs
    • missing results were interpolated for the average based on the available results
    • note: the following tables are very wide, the last column should show you the Ryzen 5 2600

     

    Applic. Tests 3100 3300X 7700K 9100F 9400F 3400G 1600 1600AF 1600X 2600
    Gen. & Cores   Zen2 4C/8T Zen2 4C/8T KBL 4C/8T CFL 4C/4T CFL 6C/6T Zen+ 4C/8T Zen 6C/12T Zen+ 6C/12T Zen 6C/12T Zen+ 6C/12T
    AnandT (18) 86.8% 100% 82.5% - - - 82.8% - - 90.9%
    Benchm (6) 93.1% 100% - - 87.7% - - - - 106.1%
    CBase (8) 90% 100% 89% 62% 92% 76% - - 106% 110%
    Cowcotl (14) 89.5% 100% - 75.9% 88.5% - - - - -
    eTeknix (13) 92.0% 100% 95.6% - - 75.0% 90.1% - - -
    GamersN (8) 89.1% 100% 89.4% 67.1% - 71.8% - 100.4% - -
    Golem (5) 89.9% 100% 88.2% 63.9% - - - 94.8% - -
    HWLuxx (10) 87.0% 100% 86.4% - 83.0% - - - - 103.8%
    KitGuru (5) 91.2% 100% 90.9% 59.1% 89.7% - - 109.4% - -
    Lab501 (11) 84.8% 100% - - 92.4% 75.7% - - - -
    LanOC (13) 90.7% 100% - - - 78.7% - - - 99.4%
    NBCheck (14) 88.8% 100% - 67.9% 91.9% - - 92.6% - -
    PCGH (4) 89.3% 100% 88.0% - 86.2% - 83.5% 85.8% - 90.4%
    PCLab (17) 90.2% 100% 88.0% 70.9% 90.2% 76.3% - 93.0% - 94.4%
    PCMag (6) 90.6% 100% 102.4% 76.5% - 89.2% - - - -
    PurePC (11) 91.1% 100% - 72.3% 97.5% - - 105.7% 104.1% 107.8%
    SweClock (8) 91.6% 100% 87.9% 61.3% - - - - 106.8% -
    The FPS (7) 85.0% 100% - 56.5% 83.2% - - - - -
    TPU (30) 88.7% 100% - 75.0% 93.1% 78.5% 86.7% - 92.9% 94.0%
    Tom's (20) 88.9% 100% 92.9% 73.5% 90.6% 76.1% - 87.6% - -
    Tweakers (13) 89.8% 100% - 76.4% 89.4% - - - - 91.1%
    TweakT (8) 90.4% 100% 93.9% - - 75.8% - - - -
    Applic. Average   89.3% 100% 91.6% 68.7% 90.0% 77.0% 89.9% 93.9% 94.5% 97.0%
    List Price   $99 $120 $339 $97 $157 $149 $189 $189 $219 $199
    Retail US   - - EOL $75 $173 $240 EOL $152 EOL $156
    Retail DE   €109 €129 EOL €72 €163 €199 €100 €100 EOL €119

     

    • Ryzen 3 3300X wins 12:1 against the Core i7-7700K and is on average +9% faster, even the Ryzen 3 3100 is nearly on par with the Core i7-7700K
    • Core i5-9400F give you nearly the same performance like the Core i7-7700K, is on par with Ryzen 3 3100 and clearly slower than Ryzen 3 3300X
    • Core i3-9100F & Ryzen 5 3400G are not on the same performance level as the new Ryzen 3
    • Ryzen 5 1600, Ryzen 5 1600 "AF" and Ryzen 5 1600X are between Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X, so the new Ryzen 3 (4C) can beat the low-cost Ryzen 5 (6C)
    • Ryzen 3 3300X even win on average against the Ryzen 5 2600, but some reviews have a different opinion on this case

     

    Gaming Tests 3100 3300X 7700K 9100F 9400F 3400G 1600 1600AF 1600X 2600
    Gen. & Cores   Zen2 4C/8T Zen2 4C/8T KBL 4C/8T CFL 4C/4T CFL 6C/6T Zen+ 4C/8T Zen 6C/12T Zen+ 6C/12T Zen 6C/12T Zen+ 6C/12T
    AnandT (5) 92.8% 100% 101.2% - - - 83.4% - - 91.4%
    CBase (8) 87% 100% 84% 78% 94% 69% - - 73% 76%
    GamersN (5) 79.6% 100% 100.4% 72.1% - 70.0% - 89.5% - -
    Golem (3) 84.6% 100% 91.9% 65.0% - - - 77.9% - -
    KitGuru (5) 83.5% 100% 109.1% 67.9% 103.3% - - 89.7% - -
    PCGH (9) 80.2% 100% 84.9% - 86.3% - 67.9% 78.1% - 76.0%
    PC Per (3) 91.7% 100% 100.9% - - - - - - -
    SweClock (5) 86.9% 100% 99.3% 76.7% - - - - 84.6% -
    Tom's (8) 81.9% 100% 87.7% 76.8% 92.0% 70.3% - 76.6% - -
    Gaming Average   84.2% 100% 92.7% 73.2% 96.1% ~71% ~73% 81.7% ~78% ~83%
    List Price   $99 $120 $339 $97 $157 $149 $189 $189 $219 $199
    Retail US   - - EOL $75 $173 $240 EOL $152 EOL $156
    Retail DE   €109 €129 EOL €72 €163 €199 €100 €100 EOL €119

     

    • the difference between Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300x jumps from +12% at applications to +19% at gaming, showing the impact of the different CCX topology on these SKUs (Ryzen 3 3100: 2 CCX with 2C each, Ryzen 3 3300X: 1 CCX with 4C, 1 CCX disabled)
    • Ryzen 3 3300X still win against Core i7-7700K and Core i5-9400F, but the performance difference to Intel is a bit lower than on application performance and the Core i7-7700K win in a fair share of reviews
    • Ryzen 3 3300X outperform all 1th/2nd gen Ryzen 5 SKUs on gaming with great performance gains (+22% to Ryzen 5 1600 "AF")
    • Ryzen 3 3100 is still good enough to be slightly better than Ryzen 5 1600 "AF" and Ryzen 5 2600 (and clearly better than Ryzen 5 1600 & 1600X)
    • Ryzen 3 3100 is not as fast on gaming as Core i7-7700K or Core i5-9400F, but still (clearly) better than Core i3-9100F

     

    Source: 3DCenter.org

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    Since Threadripper is impossible to put on ITX I would think there would be some high-end ITX boards on AM4 by now, but X370, X470, X570 nothing so far. I guess the AsRock X570 has Thunderbolt which shows they are at least aware but the VRM is not up to scratch. And it only has 1 NVME -.-

    /rant

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