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    Build a PC: GamersNexus thoughts about the Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 3700x vs Ryzen 7 3800x vs Ryzen 9 3900x. What do you think?

    April 26, 2020

    Build a PC: GamersNexus thoughts about the Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 3700x vs Ryzen 7 3800x vs Ryzen 9 3900x. What do you think?

    GamersNexus thoughts about the Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 3700x vs Ryzen 7 3800x vs Ryzen 9 3900x. What do you think?

    Posted: 25 Apr 2020 06:19 PM PDT

    Was having some last moment doubts about the 3700x that I was gonna buy (was thinking of upgrading to the 3900x), and looked again at the whole lineup. What I found out is very interesting...

    Every single processor in the Ryzen 3000 series uses the exact same physical hardware (chip design). They are all cut out from the exact same "AMD Zen2" CPU core chip wafer in the factory. They just bin (sort) the Zen2 cores differently in the factory based on their factory overclock potential, and then assign how many cores are gonna go inside each CPU, and how much cache they'll put inside the CPU, etc. Sure, this isn't surprising to anyone. Intel does the same. But it's still good to be reminded of this sometimes.

    So basically, they are all the same, just that the "easiest overclockers" got factory-sorted into the higher-priced CPUs, and got a higher overclock by default. But, as GamersNexus points out: The binning doesn't *really* matter. The entire Ryzen 3000 series all overclock "about the same" (about as well as each other). He mentions in several videos that every Ryzen 3000 series overclocks to exactly 4.3 GHz at all-core full load. Literally all of them no matter which one it is! Since they are all the same chip and because the Zen2 architecture is remarkably consistent in quality of all chips.

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    Here's the thing... I was watching Gamers Nexus (easily the most advanced, nerdy, in-depth, most amazing tech reviewer out there), and he was showing several things in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAGQwWDyURI

    This is what he very clearly and elegantly demonstrated:

    • All tests were done with both stock and several variants of overclocking for every CPU.
    • 3800x does not need to exist at all. It's a 3700x with a slight +100MHz-ish extra factory overclock, but when you overclock them both manually their performance match up perfectly. It's literally the exact same CPU for a slightly higher price.
    • 3600 overclocked gives "basically" the exact same game framerates (including "1% low FPS") as the 3700x, 3800x and 3900x (also all overclocked). There's almost no difference whatsoever in games.
    • The only ones worth considering are 3600, 3700x and 3900x.
    • The 3600 is for all types of gaming and pretty much all general desktop use. Photo editing, video editing with GPU-accelerated rendering, etc. Including music producers who can run massive 200/300-plugin projects on this with absolutely zero issue at all (he didn't mention that, but I'm a producer and looking at the geekbench scores compared to my existing setup, I can tell you that the 3600 is a total beast for music producers; audio plugins are nowhere near as heavy as other kinds of creative computer tasks such as video editing).
    • The 3700x is for people who often do very CPU-heavy tasks that apply a 100% load to all cores, and want to save time while doing those tasks. For example: Video rendering with software-effects. Blender 3D rendering. Multiple virtual machines at the same time. To a certain extent it's also decent for music producers who just want those two extra cores (8 instead of 6 cores) for whatever reason, but you really don't need it (you would be hard-pressed to ever max out a 3600 for music production). The bottom line is... the 3700x is the best value "heavy multicore" processor. But few people will use it to its actual potential. Regular desktop users can shave off a few seconds on certain heavy things like unzipping etc (compared to a Ryzen 3600), or maybe even save a minute in a 14-minute heavy CPU task, but overall, those "heavy CPU" performance gains simply aren't going to be even noticed by regular people. Especially not by gamers. And how often do you unzip files anyway? And can you wait a few seconds extra or maybe a minute extra during a 15 minute unzipping? Then a 3600 is all you need. You need to be heavily CPU-bound to need the 3700x CPU at all. He does not recommend buying it unless you do one of the kinds of tasks that I just described.
    • The 3900x is "the beast". 12 cores. Totally overkill for gaming (yet again, its FPS results are almost the same as a 3600). This is for the market of people who know WHY they want 12 cores. It's for people who do video production with heavy accelerated effects. It's for content producers/editing machines that need to crank out tons of videos very rapidly for big YouTube channels. It's for people who run insane amounts of RAM (64 GB, 96 GB, or 128 GB) and tons of virtual machines all at once. It's for people who render 3D movies/photos for a living. It's for... the biggest of the biggest power users. For everyone else it's basically a totally "meh, so what, it let me unzip the zip file unnoticeably faster compared to my 3600... oh and look, the game framerates are like 2-5 FPS higher than my 3600 which is already in the 160 FPS range for [insert example game here]".

    Something else to keep in mind is that the 3900x has a 105 watt power draw. That's almost twice of what all the other CPUs on the list use. So you need a much heavier CPU cooler because every watt generates CPU heat. And you need a beefier power supply. And you use more electricity. It's just absolutely mental to put a 3900x in a general gaming machine (no offense to anyone who did that). It's a workstation/content production CPU and almost nobody needs it.

    I know that many gamers pick the 3700x by default since it is still known as a good mid-range CPU for a valuable price with 8 cores, etc. And that's fine. But it *is* a bit overkill. The 3600 overclocked is basically identical to the 3700x overclocked, in games, as mentioned.

    To make matters even more interesting...

    • A Ryzen 3700x + a RTX 2070 Super costs the same as a Ryzen 3600 + a RTX 2080 Super. This will give a lot more FPS increase than the CPU would. There may be a very slight extra cost, but they are roughly the same price, here in Sweden (I compare prices of the cards using only the quality brands of RTX graphics cards). Roughly the same can be expected elsewhere in the world too. (Except in regions with really infamously messed up prices, such as Australia, of course... Ay mates, I can't imagine how rough it is there...)
    • Or use the saved money by getting a Ryzen 3600 + a RTX 2070 Super and spend it on upgrading another component such as PSU, case, RAM, SSD quality, etc.
    • Then of course we shouldn't forget that AMD is releasing the RDNA 2 (aka "Navi 2X", and formerly known as "Big Navi") desktop graphics cards in late 2020, the same graphics chips that power the Xbox Series X and Playstation 5. But they will probably rival a 2080 Super in price, and heck if you have a 2080 Super today, you can sell it (to nVidia lovers) on the Navi launch day and still make a good chunk of money back since it's the top of the line "pro-sumer" (non-T.I.) card.
    • Another very big consideration is the fact that 2020 is the final year of AMD's AM4 socket. In late 2020 they will release the Ryzen 4000 CPUs that will use an enhanced process and most likely give 20% increased performance-per-watt (same as their new Ryzen 4000 mobile CPUs). It's very likely that the entry-level Ryzen 4000 processor will beat most of the Ryzen 3000 CPUs, apart from "high core count beasts" such as the 3900x. But in 2021 they're launching an entirely new socket, the AM5 with the Ryzen 5000 series, which will include things such as USB4 support and DDR5 memory. So it doesn't make sense to "max out" an AM4 right now. Not considering that Ryzen 4000 is so close, and that a total replacement AM5 socket is coming next year. (Maxing out a computer right now, such as with a 3900x 12-core, mainly makes sense for people who make a living that is directly affected by how fast their CPUs can render/output the result of the thing you're creating.)
    • So in summary, for a gamer today, right now, it makes most sense to get a Ryzen 3600, with the best GPU you can buy, and the best (overclockable) motherboard and RAM you can buy. Here is GamersNexus listing of the best Ryzen motherboards on the market right now, which are the ones he has found gives the best overclock stability, etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGY2mqTn2rc And here are his guides for overclocking the 3600: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JscRwIH3OAY (undervolting) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IY_KlkQK1Q (RAM) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7NzNi1xX_4 (PBO). Oh and if someone wants his original Ryzen 3600 review, it's here with a "Strong Recommendation": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbNeht4tAE ... And lastly, he mentions the importance of cooling to maintain high clock speeds on Ryzen in these two videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94rNe4XSGU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL1F-qliSUk ... The fact that the 3600 has 6 cores means it will also run much colder than 3700X/3900X and therefore be much easier to cool down when overclocking too (thus giving you less fan noise). So it's a win-win.

    It's been an interesting and educational day, and seeing the benchmark and overclock results from the most respectable overclocker in the tech industry (he goes into so much detail that most people can't even listen to him), just convinced me to get a Ryzen 3600 and the 2080 Super. I want to thank GamersNexus for their no-bullshit, technical approach to all of this.

    Hope this summary helps someone else while we all continue to await the new Ryzen 4000, socket AM5 and AMD + nVidia graphics cards that are all on the horizon! :-)

    Edit: As for 3600x, he summarizes it as "paying $50 for the letter X". It's the same as the 3600: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDV7aA6arVo summarized as "There is no difference in anything except a higher overclock out of the box, but you can just do that yourself."

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    what's more important , the motherboard or the processor ?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 09:25 AM PDT

    I'm looking to buy a pc from some friends , they both built it and have really great parts (almost exactly)

    the only difference is one of them has a better motherboard but a i7-6th gen processor

    the other has i7-9th gen processor but an average mother board

    they're both offering me the same price , and i'm so tense when comes to computers so idk which to buy

    i use lots of architecture and graphic design programs , such as auto cad , 3d max , illustrator , priemere pro .. etc

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    pc Won’t post now

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 09:56 AM PDT

    Fresh build about 2 weeks. Recently changed cpu cooler from stock. Pc was running fine for about 12 hrs I left and came back to a black screen but pc still powered. Figured it was sleeping so I mashed keys but nothing came on. Left it off for the night came back powered it on and no post.

    CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 Cooler: thermaltake ux100 GPU: MSI GeForce Rtx 2060 Mother: msi b450 gaming plus max Power: 600w 80+g thermaltake Ram: t force 3600mhz 8x2gb rgb Fans: I'm not sure (3x) rgb fans from cyber power

    Recently I stripped everything and reinstalled including the cpu cooler with fresh paste. I've removed cmos battery and reinstalled. (Have not flashed bios with usb) I've tried multiple monitors and hdmi cables

    I honestly believe I fried my cpu because I heard this cpu fan is suppose to be very loud but I don't think it has been running at full speed. And the computer does not power my keyboard through usb and I had this problem with another computer when I forgot to connect the 8pin header.

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    Platform for finding and saving monitors.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:47 AM PDT

    https://monitors.io

    About six months ago I had a pain-point finding a new monitor, all I wanted was a clear site to easily filter and save monitors to a list for later (much like PCPartPicker). I hope this new platform solves pain points I experienced. Last post went down since we didn't have mod approval (my bad!); for those looking for the decision tree tool it's still available but was moved to here; https://app.monitors.io/monitor-finder

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    2600x vs 3600?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 10:09 AM PDT

    Pairing it with 1660ti and only going to game on it.

    Iracing which is a bit more cpu intensive I believe

    2600x is $129 3600 is $159 3600x is $179

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    I’m building a new PC, are these parts good choices? Budget is $1500 CAD

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:54 AM PDT

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $255.95 @ Vuugo
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ Memory Express
    Motherboard ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.00 @ Canada Computers
    Memory Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
    Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $85.99 @ Newegg Canada
    Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.99 @ Memory Express
    Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card $329.99 @ Memory Express
    Case Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case $109.99 @ Amazon Canada
    Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Amazon Canada
    Case Fan Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 3in1 59 CFM 120 mm Fans $70.99 @ PC-Canada
    Case Fan Corsair AF140 LED (2018) White 2-Pack 62 CFM 140 mm Fans $49.99 @ Amazon Canada
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $1491.86
    Mail-in rebates -$50.00
    Total $1441.86
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 14:53 EDT-0400
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    $900 build

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 12:03 PM PDT

    Old budget pc is slowly dying so I'm building a new one. It'll be used for programming on a vm (might decide to dual boot, but still unsure) and gaming. Main games are Path of Exile, and Black Desert Online with a few others thrown in occasionally( Modded Minecraft, Terraria, and sometimes a shooter). Using PSU from my current computer to save a little and also might throw windows on my current SSD after wiping it, but it's old so I'm not sure if it is the wisest move.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $173.85 @ Walmart
    CPU Cooler CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler $29.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $80.00
    Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
    Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Newegg
    Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card $229.99 @ Newegg
    Case darkFlash DLM 22 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ Amazon
    Power Supply Corsair RM 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $0.00
    Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.31 @ Amazon
    Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.31 @ Amazon
    Monitor Sceptre C248B-144RN 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $152.47 @ Amazon
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $948.89
    Mail-in rebates -$10.00
    Total $938.89
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 14:54 EDT-0400
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    Need Help $1000 PC Build Canada

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 12:02 PM PDT

    What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.

    Plan on using this for gaming, stream, and picture/video editing.

    I'd like to be able to run most games at 1080p 60fps. Lately I have just been playing WoW, occasionally overwatch. I also need something that can render videos relatively quick

    Budget $1000 CAD I am a little flexible

    Ill be buying everything in Canada

    Heres what I've considered, but it's more than I'd like to spend. What should I downgrade to try and hit my price point?

    CPU- AMD Ryzen 5 3600X GPU- MSI GeForce RTX 2060 VENTUS 6G OC GDDR6 Dual Fan Motherboard- ASRock B450M PRO4 Socket AM4 Storage- ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB Ram- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB Case- Fractal Design Focus G Black Window ATX Mid Tower Case

    PSU- EVGA 500 GD, 80+ GOLD 500W, 5 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-GD-0500-V1

    Total for these parts = $1500 CAD

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    RX 5700XT vs. RTX 2070Super

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 10:58 AM PDT

    I've been looking to upgrade my computer from my super old 560ti 2gb that have served me for way too long. I did lots of research and boiled down to these two cards. Sapphire Nitro+ RX 5700XT and a RTX 2070 FE. The RX5700XT is a great card but I'm aware of the driver issues and would like your insight.

    Right now I have a 1080p 144hz monitor and looking to upgrade to 1440p 60hz or possibly 144hz if i can find it for under $300.

    My specs are

    i-7 4770

    visiontek 800 watt

    asrock extreme 4

    32 gb drr3 ram

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    I'm thinking of building a new PC from Scratch, but need help with looking for decent parts with the exception of the graphics card. Are there any good websites to buy from, parts I should get or other things I need to start building?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 06:03 AM PDT

    The part I currently have is a GTX 1050ti just so that helps

    submitted by /u/qwertyuiop4000
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    Suggestings for upgrading CPU with around $400 budget.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:57 PM PDT

    Hey all, I have an older PC but am looking to upgrade CPU from an i5-4690k. Here are my current specs,

    GPU: GTX 970 SSC

    CPU: i5-4690k

    RAM: 2x4GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz

    Motherboard: Not sure generic

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    Also, I plan on upgrading the rest of the parts in about 2-3 months so I'm not worried about my low end graphics card,

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    Anyhow, for the $400 I have realized I will need new RAM now (DDR4), new MoBo and the CPU obviously. I have made the following list,:

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    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - $160

    MOBO: ASUS B450-Plus Prime AMD AM4 ATX - $100

    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600 - $85

    SSD: Inland Professional 120GB SSD - $20

    ​

    Anything else I should consider? I don't have an SSD so that's why I through in the $20 SSD. Also, all prices were checked today at my local store, thanks for any suggestions.

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    All aboard.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:10 AM PDT

    I said it. In posts, to myself, I said I'd wait. I wanted to wait. I tried to wait.

    I didn't wait. Not in a rush in the slightest and I didn't even wait. All these posts and thinking about how old my PC is (i7 930 and gtx 780 still going strong haha) made me start to twitch and the monkey started rattling the cage.

    https://i.imgur.com/nlLsMHt.jpg

    The 1st time I'm actually happy I'm near a Microcenter. 2nd time with an AMD CPU. I usually flip flop and it was AMDs turn.

    Might change the board. The Pro and other similar boards were sold out a few days ago when I picked up the Ultra on sale (whopping $10 off and there was a $20 off bundle with compatible mobo). Talk me out of it or into another board? MSI perhaps?

    My last 2 boards were Gigabyte and I've had 0 issues over 7+ yrs, so that's kinda why I went there. I'm not a die hard fan though and have no problem putting my money elsewhere.

    Yes, I will use the power. I do server/vm work among other PC related hobbies.

    -edit- It's really just to share in the joy that many others are experiencing instead of being a grump about prices and availability.

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    Newly upgraded Ryzen 5 3600 running hotter than expected causing increased fan noise

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 10:09 AM PDT

    Troubleshooting Help:

    What is your parts list?

    Type Item
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
    CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X42 Liquid CPU Cooler
    Motherboard Gigabyte X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard
    Memory Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
    Storage Samsung 960 EVO 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
    Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card
    Case Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S ATX Mid Tower Case
    Power Supply Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

    Describe your problem. List any error messages and symptoms. Be descriptive.

    I previously had an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 processor and everything worked as expected – the system was virtually silent, and remained quiet even at high load. The processor would idle at around 25C and hover around 50C under high load, without causing excessive noise.

    Today, I upgraded my firmware and BIOS and installed a Ryzen 5 3600 processor. After doing so, the processor is idling around 50C and rising to between 70C and 90C under load, which causes the cooler to spin up loudly – and then spin down again after a few seconds when the temperature has gone under 60C. This repeats constantly, as the temperature rises again after only a few seconds, and it's driving me mad already.

    List anything you've done in attempt to diagnose or fix the problem.

    I checked settings and tried different performance and power profiles, I tried alternate fan curves, and I removed and reapplied the thermal interface paste (Arctic MX-4) in a cross shape. This did nothing whatsoever and the exact same temperatures remain.

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    Trying to download things overnight

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:50 PM PDT

    I've downloaded games from steam(namely rainbow 6 siege) and left my PC on overnight, when there is the best internet speed. This has worked fine and when the screen turns off due to inactivity the PC stays on and the game keeps downloading. Now downloading cod warzone(using a different app to download it from) and leaving the PC on overnight. When I wake up the fans aren't spinning and only the ram rgb is on. The game has barely downloaded at all. I'm assuming it's to do with the app and I just need to change some things in settings but first I needed to make sure theres nothing wrong with leaving the PC on overnight as long as it's not under heavy load

    submitted by /u/CurlyFries140
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    Lightning strike fried my computer. Looking at a new build. Can you review and give me your opinions?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:48 PM PDT

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $298.99 @ Newegg
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For $0.00
    Motherboard MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $169.99 @ Newegg
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Corsair Force LS 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
    Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card $504.98 @ Newegg
    Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $92.98 @ Newegg
    Power Supply EVGA G5 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $122.98 @ Newegg
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $1309.91
    Mail-in rebates -$40.00
    Total $1269.91
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 16:47 EDT-0400
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    Samsung 860 Pro 2.5" SSD getting insane speeds, better than Sabrant Gen4 (PCIe 4) NVME M.2. How is that possible?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:43 PM PDT

    On my 860 Pro I used Samsung Magician and CrystalDiskMark and got 6408 MB/s sequential read (1MiB) and 6616 MB/s sequential write (1MiB). It stayed consistently fast as hell throughout. Looking at reviews of the Sabrant and Aorus M.2 drives online, the speeds are drastically slower. 4999 and 4456 MB/s read and write respectively for 1MiB sequential. But the the random 4KiB is only 63 MB/s read and 248 MB/s write, while my Samsung got 547 MB/s and 421 MB/s read and write.

    How can this be? Not only is the 860 Pro a few years older, but its also not NVME or PCIe Gen4. Can someone please help me understand.

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    1080p144hz alongside 4K60hz?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:42 PM PDT

    I'm currently using a 27" 60hz 4K monitor, and though it's great for productivity and creative purposes, for gaming with my GTX 1070 Ti it's far from ideal. Running games at 1440p doesn't look great on it, and 1080p is even worse, but my card simply can't handle running games at 4K.

    So, I'm looking to buy a 1080p 144hz monitor with the same size as my 4K monitor to use alongside it, so I can use it solely for gaming purposes and get a much better viewing experience out of my 1070 Ti.

    Now I wonder: if I'd run these two monitors side by side, would I be able to run them at their respective maximum refresh rates simultaneously? And if it is possible, would the 4K monitor showing my desktop impact in-game performance in any way?

    Or would I be better off just selling my 4K monitor and getting a 1440p 144hz monitor to get a middle-of-the-road experience?

    submitted by /u/SoldierOfOrange
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    No signs of life on Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming :(

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:42 PM PDT

    Symptom: No LEDs turn on on motherboard

    Steps (while wearing anti static wrist strap):

    * Brand new motherboard, removed from anti static cover, put on mb box.

    * Installed Ryzen 3600X with stock cooler

    * Added 3600MHz RAM in A2 and B2

    * Plugged in MB and CPU power connector

    * Turned on PSU

    Result: No LEDs light up on the mb.

    Tried:

    * Shorting the power on switch pins - nothing happens

    * Removing one RAM module (keeping just the A2 slot occupied)

    * PSU paper clip test - fan spins

    * Adding external GPU with 8-pin power connected - nothing changes

    There is absolutely no sign of life on the MB. Neither the debug LEDs nor the RGB light near the I/O ports light up. This is my second build but I've never seen anything like this. Could the motherboard be DOA?

    submitted by /u/the-last-generation
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    First build in 7 years

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 01:40 PM PDT

    Building my first gaming computer after 7 years. Any critiques of my parts list would be appreciated. Looking to stay at $1000.00 budget. Thanks.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $173.85 @ Walmart
    Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $108.98 @ Newegg
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $85.99 @ Amazon
    Storage Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $0.00
    Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card $433.98 @ Newegg
    Case Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case $99.00
    Power Supply Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1001.79
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-26 16:40 EDT-0400
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    How do i link up RGB fans to an RGB Addressable motherboard ?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:58 AM PDT

    Dear fellow pc builders, im about to embark on the most expensive PC Build ive done yet, and I need some help with regards to fan RGB and connection. I've read alot online but I am still rather confused.

    1. I went with an X570 Aorus Elite motherboard, and Deepcool Castle 360 RGBv2 AIO. I would like to get some fans with RGB that can compliment the RGB from the deepcool fans.
    2. I have read about many fans having their own software and hardware like hubs, lighting controllers, PWM controllers, etc. The mobo has RGB fusion, what is your recommendation, should i use the RGB fusion software? What equipment do i need, e.g. if i went with the Corsair LL120 set of fans, do i need a lighting node pro? Whats the difference to the commander pro?

    As you can tell, i'm quite confused around the whole RGB fan connections, please try to simplify it for me, last thing i would want is to overspend on fans. Any help is appreciated!

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    Is it a bad time to invest 1000 bucks in a new desktop build?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:57 AM PDT

    Am5 ddr5 and usb4 are supposedly around the corner so should someone interested in building his first pc for gaming and processing 360 degree videos wait to buy in?

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    Building my first PC, thoughts on first draft of the build?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:32 AM PDT

    Should this build cover all my bases?

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    CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 3700X 8-Core 3.6 GHz $289.99
    Mother Board: ASRock X470 Taichi AM4 AMD Ryzen 3000 Series $209.99
    RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB $84.99
    Storage: Seagate BarraCuda ST1000DM010 1TB $45.99
    Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT $365
    Power Supply: CoolerMaster MasterWatt 750 750W $99
    Wireless Network Adapter: ASUS - Dual-Band AC750 Wireless PCI Express Network Card $29.99
    Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Black ATX High-Airflow Compact Light Tint Tempered Glass Mid Tower Computer Case $89.99
    Total: $1153.94
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    RX 5700 XT or RTX 2060 Super?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 11:18 AM PDT

    Hi, folks!

    Since my old Fury X is making some heavy noise recently (which is a pain in the neck for me) I'm gonna swap it for a newer card but I'm uncertain which card to choose.

    I hover between the RX 5700 XT and the RTX 2060 Super, where my favoured custom models cost roughly the same (the Red Devil and the KFA2 Ex). The 5700 XT should be about 8-10% faster than the 2060 Super but RTX Raytracing and DLSS 2.0 seem very compelling to me (although the support for it is probably lacking).

    So I'm torn between raw bang for my buck and some nice features whose availability are still very uncertain.

    What would you choose in my stead?

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    WHAT SHOULD I UPGRADE? I don't have any idea, help.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 12:44 PM PDT

    Hello guys how's everyone doing I have this pic and I want to know what should I upgrade for an overall better experience.

    CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 Motherboard: Gigabyte A320m GPU: GTX 1650S 500w Power supply 16gb ram

    What do you think should be upgraded? I can spend 500/400/300ish monthly on the pc if I want. So give me some wise advice you beautiful people.

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