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    Hardware support: Intel Makes Changes to Technology Organization - Murthy Renduchintala Leaving Company

    Hardware support: Intel Makes Changes to Technology Organization - Murthy Renduchintala Leaving Company


    Intel Makes Changes to Technology Organization - Murthy Renduchintala Leaving Company

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 02:11 PM PDT

    (OT)Noctua vs. Arctic, Nidec - Ultimate 120mm Fan Re-match!

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 05:09 AM PDT

    Intel Leadership, Tech Team Changes Not Delayed, Murthy Renduchintala Leaves

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 03:06 PM PDT

    Green with NVMe: AWS adds more Arm-powered instance types | Local SSD block-level storage comes to EC2 instances powered by home-brew Graviton2 CPUs

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 10:04 PM PDT

    How will unified L3 cache give an advantage to Zen 3 vs Zen 2?

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 03:13 PM PDT

    Does not increased cache size pose a latency penalty opposed to having smaller caches that are physically split?

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    (GN)$1 vs. $10 Reusable Thermal Pad Benchmarks: No-Name, IC Diamond, & Carbo...

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 03:40 PM PDT

    AMD and Intel do battle over TSMC capacity, says report

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 04:51 AM PDT

    Qualcomm's Quick Charge 5 refuels phones 50% in 5 minutes, 100% in 15

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 01:59 PM PDT

    The 2021 Intel Ice Pickle How 2021 Will be Crunch Time | ServeTheHome

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 10:02 AM PDT

    Sega Saturn Modifications

    Posted: 28 Jul 2020 01:50 AM PDT

    Thunderbolt 3 vs USB 3.2 Gen 2 - Real world speeds?

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 07:30 PM PDT

    Help me understand this correctly. I am interested in comparing TB3 vs USB 3.2 Gen 2 for data-only transfer purposes. TB3 cables and peripherals are quite expensive.

    TB3

    Theoretical rate (data transfers only) - 22Gbps (It's NOT 40Gbps for data only, see links below)

    Real world (data transfers only) - 10.2Gbps/9.6Gbps (22Gbps See edit)

    Sources - Figure 7 on https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunderbolt3_TechBrief_FINAL.pdf , https://www.anandtech.com/print/13944/exploring-tb3-egfx-with-powercolor-gaming-station-rx-vega-56-nano

    USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x2

    Theoretical rate (data transfers only) - 20Gbps

    Real world (data transfers only) - 16Gbps

    Sources - https://www.everythingusb.com/speed.html, https://www.legitreviews.com/first-look-superspeed-usb-20gbps-performance-usb3-gen2x2_215682

    USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x1 (AKA USB 3.1 Gen 2)

    Theoretical rate (data transfers only) - 10Gbps

    Real world (data transfers only) - 7.2-8Gbps

    Sources - https://www.everythingusb.com/speed.html, https://www.legitreviews.com/first-look-superspeed-usb-20gbps-performance-usb3-gen2x2_215682

    Am I correct in concluding that TB3 (and TB4 presumably) offers

    - SLOWER real world speeds than USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x2 for data-only setups and

    - minor real world benefit over USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x1 for data-only setups?

    Basically, doesn't that mean "don't get TB3 unless you absolutely need the additional displayport and eGPU functionality"? This is a striking conclusion; you should not pay for TB3 surcharge if you are interested in data only transfers.

    Examples of products that don't make sense with this conclusion

    - Thunderbolt 3 10G Ethernet Adapters

    - Thunderbolt 3 NVMe SSD Enclosures

    If you have USB 3.2 ports, just get or wait for the USB 3.2 versions of the above products?

    Edit - I stand corrected. TB3 is capable of achieving 22Gbps real world, acccording to https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9349/sabrent-rocket-xtrm-portable-thunderbolt-3-ssd/index.html

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    Qualcomm Announces Quick Charge 5 with SMB1396/SMB1398: PD-PPS Up to 100W

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 10:50 AM PDT

    AMD Ryzen 7 4700G APU Test - Doom Eternal

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 04:06 AM PDT

    Intel 7nm Delay Fallout; Law Firm Launches Securities Fraud Investigation

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 07:14 AM PDT

    Ryzen 5 3400G vs Ryzen 7 4700G / Pro 4750G - in 5 Games iGPU Comparison

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 03:43 PM PDT

    How to measure cpu single core performance if clock speeds are only useful when comparing similar CPUs in the same family? [sequential processing]

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 08:41 PM PDT

    "clock speeds are only useful when comparing similar CPUs in the same family. For example, let's say you're comparing two Intel Haswell Core i5 CPUs, which only differ in their clock rate. One runs at 3.4 GHz, and one runs at 2.6 GHz. In this case, the 3.4 GHz processor will perform 30% faster when they're both running at their top speed. This is true because the processors are otherwise the same. But you can't compare the Haswell Core i5's CPU clock rate against another type of CPU, such as an AMD CPU, ARM CPU, or even an older Intel CPU."

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    Why Not Use Heterogeneous Multi-GPU?

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 06:54 AM PDT

    Intel Rocket Lake-S 11th Gen 8-Core, 16-Thread CPU Benchmarks Leak Yet Again

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 10:49 AM PDT

    One Navi 21 varient may be capable of HBM use.

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 06:29 AM PDT

    Akasa Offers 'True Silence' With Maxwell Pro Fanless PC Case

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 07:18 AM PDT

    I really don't like how SATA (along with HDDs and ODDs) is being labeled as "legacy technology" already.

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 05:59 AM PDT

    In the latest Hardware Unboxed Q&A the hosts received a question along the lines of "Will there ever be a SATA4 to match M.2 speeds?" Their answer was a resounding "no", because NVMe is the future and SATA will only remain on motherboards as a "legacy interface" before being eventually phased out.

    This was yet another moment when I felt like, despite only being 24, technology is already leaving me behind. SATA is an awesome interface! It's cheap and plentiful on all motherboards, it's universal (you can plug ODDs, HDDs and SSDs into it) and it's plenty fast enough for everyday use, to the point when NVMe still doesn't really make sense unless your specific workload is I/O heavy.

    But that's not even my main complaint. The Hardware Unboxed hosts compared SATA to long obsolete interfaces like parallel ports, but I don't think they're comparable. Parallel ports (alongside a lot of other niche interfaces) got replaced with USB, which kept most of their functionality while being massively faster and easier to use. There were no drawbacks to switching to USB because it was superior in every single way and didn't leave functionality behind. Same with IDE: SATA was everything IDE was, but a lot faster and easier to use.

    NVMe, however, isn't merely an interface change, but a gateway to the future where hard drives and optical drives are relegated to server and niche long-term storage use. In a vacuum, I'm not against having NVMe HDDs and ODDs through something like U.2 (though it would be rather pointless as neither device is bumping into SATA3 limitations regardless), but I know full well that it won't happen and they're just going to be left behind for a glorious, cable-less future.

    Meanwhile, I can't imagine my desktop life without these "obsolete" devices even today. Their cost/capacity ratio is unmatched by SSDs and, as QLC is proving, will probably never be matched without serious longevity sacrifices. Even for something like a game library, large HDD + SSD cache seems like the most optimal solution unless you're willing to shuffle your game data around drives manually or even frequently install/uninstall stuff. Maybe next-gen consoles will change that and SSDs will become a requirement for games in the future: if so, this will be a dark day for PC gaming as large SSDs are still way too expensive to keep up with ever-increasing game install sizes.

    And then there's optical drives. Back when these were first going out of fashion around 10 years ago, I was more than ready to jump into the future with (more or less) infinitely rewritable and easier to use flash drives. Since then, however, I developed a yearning for having a physical thing represent my digital media if I can help it. I have a Blu-Ray burner in my system today (despite the fact that modern cases with 5.25' bays are basically nonexistent) and use it frequently to burn movies to watch on my TV. This won't be possible anymore when SATA dies out.

    In conclusion, I repeat what I've said a couple of paragraphs ago: it's not just about replacing a slower interface with a faster one. If it was, I wouldn't be complaining. But there are devices in modern PCs that are already considered "legacy" (and only being kept alive by the ubiquity of SATA) that are going to be simply left behind once the interface is phased out. And, IMO, the PC world is nowhere near ready for that to happen.

    There's something wrong with how fast technology is moving when even a 24-year-old PC nerd can't keep up with it.

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    Next Gen GPU Pricing Thoughts? Will SATA 4 Ever Exist? July Q&A [Part 1]

    Posted: 27 Jul 2020 05:36 AM PDT

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