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    Hardware support: Cinebench R20: Alder Lake @125W, @241W vs Zen 3 @88W, @142W

    Hardware support: Cinebench R20: Alder Lake @125W, @241W vs Zen 3 @88W, @142W


    Cinebench R20: Alder Lake @125W, @241W vs Zen 3 @88W, @142W

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 08:50 PM PDT

    CB20/MT Hardware @88W @125W @142W @125/251W @241W Diff.
    i9-12900K ADL, 8C+8c/24T, 3.2/5.2 GHz - 7492 - - 10180 +36%
    i7-12700K ADL, 8C+4c/20T, 3.6/5.0 GHz - 6689 - - 8677 +30%
    i5-12600K ADL, 6C+4c/16T, 3.7/4.9 GHz - 5953 - - 6551 +10%
    R9 5950X Zen 3, 16C/32T, 3.4/4.9 GHz 7982 - 10435 - - +31%
    R9 5900X Zen 3, 12C/24T, 3.7/4.8 GHz 7659 - 8545 - - +12%
    R7 5800X Zen 3, 8C/16T, 3.8/4.7 GHz 5643 - 6046 - - +7%
    R5 5600X Zen 3, 6C/12T, 3.7/4.6 GHz 4569 - - - - -
    i9-11900K RKL, 8C/16T, 3.5/5.3 GHz - 4817 - 6010 - +25%
    i7-11700K RKL, 8C/16T, 3.6/5.0 GHz - 4584 - - - -
    i5-11600K RKL, 6C/12T, 3.9/4.9 GHz - 3929 - 4336 - +10%

    Notes:
    - ADL by HXL @ Twitter. However, the MTP/PL2 for 12700K & 12600K is not 241W, but 190W and 150W respectively. Unsure if this was taken into account - everything was labeled as "241W".
    - RKL @ 125W by HXL @ Twitter. However, these benchmarks do not match the stock state of these processors because the PL2 was also set to 125W. The stock performance of RKL on PL1=125W and PL2=251W was additionally noted, source is ComputerBase.
    - Zen 3 by ComputerBase. The PPT (not the TDP) was noted here - because only the PPT represents the true power limit. Values of 88W correspond to the stock state for the Ryzen 5 5600X, and to the Eco mode for the larger Zen 3 processors.

    Compiled by 3DCenter.org

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    M1 Pro 10-core SoC pips M1 Max to head PassMark's desktop and laptop CPU single-thread performance charts as Apple Silicon secures top four places

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 12:57 PM PDT

    Why Are CPU's Superscalar ALUs bigger in transistor density and die space than a GPU's FP32 Vector ALU

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 11:57 PM PDT

    Idk if this is the right subreddit, but I definitely need an answer for this question from ppl knowledged in Computer Architecture.

    I understand that CPUs use SuperScalar ALUs to take multiple instructions while GPUs use 100s, if not 1000s, of smaller FP32 Vector ALUs that work on a Single Instruction in parallel with the other ALUs to output multiple Data.

    But my question is, what makes one SuperScalar ALU in a CPU bigger in size compared to one FP32 Vector ALU found in a GPU. Or, in other words, why does an ALU in a CPU take up more die space (transistor density) compared to an ALU in a GPU?

    If this might not be the right subreddit, pls direct me to a one where this question could be answered

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    [Anandtech] Google's Tensor inside of Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro: A Look into Performance & Efficiency

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 06:16 AM PDT

    Intel Optane losses laid bare in SEC report

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 12:48 PM PDT

    You can now, technically, build your own USB-C iPhone

    Posted: 03 Nov 2021 01:56 AM PDT

    Apple Reportedly Using iPad Components in iPhone 13 to Offset Shortages

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 07:30 AM PDT

    Can someone explain the benefit of big.LITTLE Intel architecture for a desktop?

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 10:55 PM PDT

    Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like the architecture doesn't really make sense for the market they're trying to sell to. People buying these enthusiast type CPUs for a desktop rig mostly care about fast, powerful cores and as many as they can get packed on a chip. They will usually have good quality PSUs and cooling to go along with it so power and heat concerns are addressed.

    With every CPU in the 12th gen lineup I see them listing the number of P and E type cores and find myself thinking that I wish they'd just replace the 4 or 8 E cores with more P cores instead.

    I understand the benefit of the E cores is supposed to be in handling background tasks and freeing up P cores for the more performance intensive applications but part of the benefit of a high core CPU in general is you can let one powerful core handle background OS and have more than enough left for a game or whatever else you're running. So basically it seems like the big.LITTLE architecture is trying to solve a multi-tasking problem that isn't really there.

    I'll hold final judgement until I see actual benchmarks for the CPUs but on first glance the strategy doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Haven't had an Intel CPU for a few years now but I'm open minded and might give 12th gen a try if the performance is there.

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    Scythe announces New Scythe Mugen 5 S with Wonder Snail fan instead of kaze flex

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 09:12 AM PDT

    Backblaze Drive Stats for Q3 2021

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 08:49 AM PDT

    Intel was rather misleading in its comparisons between the Core i9-12900K and Ryzen 9 5950X

    Posted: 03 Nov 2021 02:11 AM PDT

    [MSI Delta 15] RX 6700M How to get lower Temps

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 11:53 PM PDT

    RX 6700M tweaks. MSI Delta 15 (Reduce IGPU memory, Increase TDP RX 6700M, undervolting Ryzen 7 5800H, disable smartshift)

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 01:42 PM PDT

    SDC2021: From DNA Synthesis on Chips to DNA Data Storage

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 11:26 AM PDT

    TechInsights: "Google Pixel 6 Pro Teardown"

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 01:23 PM PDT

    Major Storage Vendors Join Circular Drive Initiative to Combat E-Waste

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 10:17 AM PDT

    Do you think Intel / Nvidia could develop chips that can compete against M1X in the laptop realm anytime soon?

    Posted: 03 Nov 2021 12:53 AM PDT

    Apples chip is literally on par with an i9 11900k in single/multi, and on par with a 3080 mobile from nvidia, without barely any fan noise and barely any power/heat generated.
    I'm so jealous, I want this for windows laptops. Is there anyway intel/nvidia could develop a chip within the next year or so that's on par?

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    Manufacturing Bits: Nov. 2: Lithography Update: IRDS lithography roadmap; alternative litho techniques

    Posted: 02 Nov 2021 09:07 AM PDT

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