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    September 03, 2020

    Hardware support: NVIDIA RTX 30-Series – You Asked. We Answered

    NVIDIA RTX 30-Series – You Asked. We Answered

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 05:29 PM PDT

    [Gamers Nexus] Intel Won't Stop Talking About AMD: New Tiger Lake CPU Specs & 11th Gen "Benchmarks"

    Posted: 03 Sep 2020 12:02 AM PDT

    AIB partners didn't know the performance of Ampere until the announcement

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 09:21 AM PDT

    Hilbert Hagedoorn from guru3d writes

    https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-3080-and-3090-what-we-know,1.html

    No benchmarks have leaked, how is that possible?

    I'll let you in on that secret. The AIB partners have all been prepping their cards for months now. They have the products, engineering boards for a while. NVIDIA however, has not released a driver that works with anything other than the test software they supply. So get this, I am writing this article on September 1st, hours before the presentation, and still, the board partners have no idea what the performance is going to be like. We need to advance on that as the board partners even do not know the thermal capacity effect of their products. NVIDIA has provided them with test software that will work with the driver. Basically, these are DOS-like applications that run stress tests. No output is given other than PASS or FAIL. We know the names of these test applications: NVfulcrum test and NVUberstress test. For thermals, there is another unnamed stress test, but here again, the board partners can only see PASS or FAIL. Well, we assume they have tested with thermal probes.

    This would explain why there are dozens of TBD lines in the press releases of every brand. No clockspeeds, no TBP, no dimensions, and certainly no price or availability. And these were officially released after the event, not leaked.

    Here's for example an official MSI press release image: https://www.techpowerup.com/img/MQ9Dk3OTKzmFta1t.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/zajTp1S.jpg

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    The next-gen SSD wars have begun and Sabrent is winning - PCGamer

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:06 PM PDT

    Intel announces 11th Gen Core ‘Tiger Lake’ series with Xe-LP graphics

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 07:42 AM PDT

    SemiAccurate: "OEMs all say they Intel is shorting them on [Tiger Lake] supply by 7-digit numbers in several cases. (...) Yields are still not viable on 10nm"

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 12:24 PM PDT

    Why are there so few multi-function PCIe cards, compared to how many PCI ones existed?

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 07:20 PM PDT

    In the PCI era, cards with multiple ports and functions were quite common. You'd even get odd combos, like SCSI + Ethernet, or jack-of-all trades types like the one that had 3 USB (2.0 speed), 2 Firewire ports, 2 Sata ports, and an IDE port. That is 8 ports across 4 different protocols, all on 1 card.

    Today's PCIe cards are almost universally dedicated to a single function. And while I understand there are more lanes and computational bandwidth at stake (for things like Thunderbolt, 10 gig networking, etc.) that don't lend themselves to sharing a card, there are ones that I would think could share a card but don't.

    For instance, it seems like all of the WIFI + Bluetooth PCIe cards actually need a motherboard USB connection for the Bluetooth (and so you are often giving up not just 1 but 2 USB ports from a motherboard header, just for the Bluetooth portion).

    I'm guessing it is just an issue with demand vs cost instead of a technical limitation?

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    Is Intel Throttling MKL Performance on AMD? - Level1Techs

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 05:54 PM PDT

    Intel is being silent about the price of Tiger Lake laptops and that has us worried

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:01 PM PDT

    What is NVIDIA Reflex

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 03:55 PM PDT

    Cisco warns of actively exploited bugs in carrier-grade routers

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 08:27 AM PDT

    What to make of Ampere with MCM cards rumored soon?

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:06 PM PDT

    Hey guys, first post here so I will try to make this as high quality as I can make it.

    So, first of all I'd like to say I am basing this post off some rumors that I have seen for both Hopper and RDNA 3. These links indicate Hopper will be using Multi-core modules (MCM) and RNDA 3 will be as well. Additionally, it is rumored both of these cards are coming in 2021, links here: Hopper 2021, RDNA 3 2021. I will say as a qualifier AMD's official roadmap shows RDNA 3 could be 2022, so that is certainly a possibility. I also would not be surprised to see either of these cards delayed to 2022 due to coronavirus.

    The second thing is Turing GPU's. As we all know the Turing GPU's were largely considered a massive disappointment for their price to performance. In the table below I have gathered the launch prices of Turing and Pascal and their relative performance increases over the previous generation. For this table I did not include anything below the 60 series and only included the ti version of the 80 card. I did this since they considered the main cards and easier to compare across generations. I am using this graph from tomshardware on the average framerates. Additionally, I am using these price sources from wikipedia: 1000 series, 2000 series

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    Additionally, I will include the 3000 series in this chart for reference. I am making the following the assumptions: 3070=2080ti performance, 3080=70% increase over 2080. I based this off this chart by Nvidia.

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    GPU Price(at launch FE if applicable) Performance)compared to previous gen) Price(compared to previous gen) price to perf increase fraction (lower=better)
    GTX 1060(6 gb) 300 N/A(if we assume 5 fps on the graph it is 344%) +100 N/A(if we assume 5 fps it is .29)
    GTX 1070 380 76% +50 .66
    GTX 1080 600 81% +50 .62
    GTX 1080ti 700 79% +50 .63
    RTX 2060 350 75% +50 .66
    RTX 2070 600 49% +220 4.49
    RTX 2080 800 46% +200 4.34
    RTX 2080ti 1200 42% +500 11.9
    RTX 3070 500 55% -100 -1.8
    RTX 3080 700 70% -100 -1.42

    Obviously the 3000 offers an interesting perspective since the prices actually went down compared to the 2000, however, this displays the great upgrade the 3000 series is. This leads me into my next point. Because of the prices and performance of the 3000 series it absolutely destroyed the 2000 series prices in the used market and in general. This really makes the 3000 series look great value for performance. That being said, there is one outlier: RTX 3090. The performance upgrade over the 3080 can be considered around 20%. If we consider the 3090 to be a successor to the RTX 2080ti (I know it is technically a Titan card, but for this case, I want to use the 2080ti to put it into perspective). It over a price to perf increase of 5.04. This is not bad considering this is a titan card and they tend to be extremely expensive for not massive performance increases. But this begs the question, what happens to the 3000 series and especially the 3090 once Hopper and RDNA 3 come out next yearish?

    Well to consider the impact Hopper could have, let us take a look at Ryzen.

    So, I could be doing this completely wrong, but I am comparing the FX 8370 to the Ryzen 1700x on Cinebench. From what I can tell, this seems to be two similar CPU's in terms of where they fall in their respective architectures. They launched at somewhat similar prices, which is also why I used them. Also, I thought Cinebench would be a good metric to use. I am using Cinebench R20.

    So, here are the scores:

    Single-core Multi-core
    Ryzen 5 1500x 341 1811
    FX 8370 204 1281

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    Obviously, the Ryzen series did not just succeed because of MCM. There are many other reasons as to why Ryzen looks better than the FX series. I was not very old when the FX series came out, however, my understanding was that it was a terrible architecture to begin with and this is why Intel dominated the space for many years. These qualifiers being stated, AMD and using MCM was a true hit. It changed the sphere of the CPU market and as we have seen the Ryzen line evolve it has become extremely strong, partially due to their early adoption of MCM and amazing Ryzen architecture. Now that we have seen what MCM's can do for CPU's, let us discuss GPU's.

    So, GPU's typically have a longer production cycle than CPU's. As we have seen with ray tracing, it really has taken 2 tries to get the implementation fully right or not impact performance as much. That being said, an MCM architecture might be less of a beta launch than ray tracing, since Turing flopped so much, Nvidia likely does not want to repeat that launch. So, that brings up to the question of this post, how will Hopper and RDNA 3 with MCM affect Ampere pricing and perception in a year?

    I think this is a very interesting question, but I think we can safely assume an MCM likely would vastly increase performance. Perhaps using Ryzen compared to FX and the Nvidia performance increases of the past we can consider a jump of ~50-60% across the board. This is a massive uplift, however, AMD's MCM showed that it is possible to have massive uplifts when going to MCM's. Additionally, Ampere has proven Nvidia can vastly increase performance.

    So, where this does leave the 3000 series is my question. I think Hopper and RDNA 3 would likely make the 3090 pricing look silly similar to the 2080ti. The 3070 and 3080 are far harder to gauge, but my guess is they may age similar to the 900 series. A lot of people held onto them for very long as they got them and they were good GPU's and haven't felt a need to upgrade.

    I'd love to hear all discussion about this and hear what I have done. I would also love your takes as to how the 3000 series will look with Hopper and RDNA 3 around the corner in a year!

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    All-core 4.3 GHz at 28 W — Intel announces the 11th gen Tiger Lake lineup for laptops: Full specs, SKUs, and preliminary performance comparison

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:09 AM PDT

    [Hardware Unboxed] Higher Clocks, Bad Names, Dubious Benchmarks: Intel Launches Tiger Lake

    Posted: 03 Sep 2020 01:51 AM PDT

    Intel Launches Tiger Lake: Anandtech Live Blog

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 09:19 AM PDT

    Anandtech | Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake: Up to 4.8 GHz at 50 W, 2x GPU with Xe, New Branding

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:40 AM PDT

    Tiger Lake Pounces: Up to 4.8 GHz, LPDDR4-4267 Memory, Iris Xe Graphics up to 1.35 GHz

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 10:49 AM PDT

    (Palit) Palit Releases GameRock and GamingPro GeForce RTX™ 30 Series

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 04:35 AM PDT

    New Dell XPS 13 and XPS 13 2-in-1 confirmed with Intel 11th Gen CPUs

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 11:35 AM PDT

    [Hardware Unboxed] RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070: Our Thoughts, Opinions and Announcement Analysis

    Posted: 02 Sep 2020 02:08 AM PDT
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