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    Simple Questions - September 16, 2020

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 05:11 AM PDT

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

    • Is this RAM compatible with my motherboard?
    • I'm thinking of getting a GTX 1070. Which one should I get?
    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    RTX 3080 FE review megathread

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 05:52 AM PDT

    Reviews for the RTX 3080 FE are live, which means another review megathread.

    Specifications:

     

    Specs RTX 3080 RTX 2080 Ti RTX 2080S RTX 2080
    CUDA Cores 8704 4352 3072 2944
    Core Clock 1440MHz 1350MHz 1650MHz 1515Mhz
    Boost Clock 1710MHz 1545MHz 1815MHz 1710MHz
    Memory Clock 19Gbps GDDR6X 14Gbps GDDR6 14Gbps GDDR6 14Gbps GDDR6
    Memory Bus Width 320-bit 352-bit 256-bit 256-bit
    VRAM 10GB 11GB 8GB 8GB
    FP32 29.8 TFLOPs 13.4 TFLOPs 11.2 TFLOPs 10.1 FLOPs
    TDP 320W 250W 250W 215W
    GPU GA102 TU102 TU104 TU104
    Transistor Count 28B 18.6B 13.6B 13.6B
    Architecture Ampere Turing Turing Turing
    Manufacturing Process Samsung 8nm TSMC 12nm TSMC 12nm TSMC 12nm
    Launch Date 17/09/20 20/9/18 23/7/19 20/9/18
    Launch Price $699 MSRP:$999 FE:$1199 $699 MSRP:$699 FE:$799

    A note from Nvidia on the 12 pin adapter:

    There have been some conversations around the little disclaimer that comes with the 30-series GPUs. It states that the GPU might not be powered on properly if you use a 3rd party vendor connector, and we recommend to use only our connector that comes with the GPU. We need to update this with the message below.

    12-pin Adapter Availability For power connector adapters, we recommend you use the 12-pin dongle that already comes with the RTX 3080 GPU. However, there will also be excellent modular power cables that connect directly to the system power supply available from other vendors, including Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, and CableMod. Please contact them for pricing and additional product details

    Reviews

     

    Site Text Video
    Gamers Nexus - link
    Hardware Unboxed/Techspot link link
    Igor's Lab link link
    Techpowerup link -
    Tom's Hardware link
    Guru3D link
    Hexus.net link
    Computerbase.de link
    hardwareluxx.de link
    PC World link
    OC3D link link
    Kitguru link
    HotHardware link
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    Can’t seem to understand how people choose motherboards?

    Posted: 15 Sep 2020 09:45 PM PDT

    So I'm not trying to build a new rig just wondering as it's unclear to me, I can easily understand the differences between GPU's, it has pretty basic hierarchy, other PC parts are also simple and straightforward.

    But I can't seem to understand the difference between motherboards?

    I always see people recommending this mobo over that because it has better VRM's or performs better yet mobo specs are pretty basic and I barley see any info?

    Same applies to CPU's, how can you know a CPU will cause a bottleneck?
    Is performance tied to frequency? Or cores/threads?

    Thanks for any help

    Edit: Can't reply to everyone but every comment really adds and brings its own experience, Thank you for all the answers, really helped me understand!

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    He built it in a cave, with a box of scraps! ($200 scrap-build gaming pc for my nephew)

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 06:28 AM PDT

    For the laughs, here's a pic of the scrappy guts: https://i.imgur.com/GzZAV0Y.jpg

    My 9 year old nephew wants a gaming PC to "do schoolwork and stuff", so I decided to see what I could knock together cheaply. What I ended up with is a decent frankenbuild for less than $200.

    The parts:

    First, he needs a decent gaming monitor. I had an old ASUS VE247H laying around that I was going to use (a decent 1080p gaming monitor), but instead, I found a Flatiron 120hz w2363d for $25 at a goodwill that was in perfect working order. With its "thru" mode it has 3ms response times and was one of the early low latency high hz monitors (expensive in its day and still plenty good). To run the 120hz I had to go to Amazon and spend $10 on a dual link dvi cable, but that was okay. Having the higher refresh rate is worth it.

    $35 in, I needed the rest of the computer. I jumped on facebook marketplace and started eyeballing parts. Lots of people are ripping the guts out of their old rigs to upgrade, or just getting rid of their old machine entirely. One in particular caught my eye. It was a FX 8350 on a motherboard with a couple sticks of ram and a hypercool 212 bolted to the processor (no fan) for $150. I talked him down to $120 and went and bought it. Did I overpay? Maybe... but I felt pretty good about the deal since it had everything I needed on a decent motherboard. eBay says I did fine and could probably sell the set for a small profit.

    When I was there, I asked what kind of video card he had in the old beast (figuring he upgraded that as well). He said he had an rx 480 in it, but that the rx 480 was broken/burned out. I offered him twenty bucks for the broken rx 480 (figuring I'd just take a gamble), and he gave it to me. Worst case, my plan was to use an old 780ti I had laying around the house from one of my old build upgrades, but an 8gb 480 would be a better card for this machine (quieter, lower power, and faster in most things).

    Now I was in it $175, but I still needed a case and a PSU. I went looking, and I found a coolermaster HAF 912 with a 750 watt PSU and a dvd drive still bolted into it. I talked the guy down to $25 and called it good. I probably should have paid more, but at this point I was determined to get the whole thing built under $200.

    Finally, I needed a hard drive. I had an old 512gb SSD and a 2tb regular HD I had laying around from one of my older builds so I just used that. We'll call it free, although I'm sure I paid something for it a few years back :). They came from my drawer of forgotten PC parts, so, recycling for the win!

    After getting windows 10 installed, The 8gb "broken" RX 480 was, indeed, broken. It was throttling like crazy at the slightest use and running like hot trash. Clearly, it needed new thermal paste. I pulled the card apart and sure enough, there was a large dry bare spot on the die. I re-pasted it and it's running like brand new. I overclocked it to 1373mhz and was extremely happy with the results. I didn't even have to break my old 780ti out of the drawer of forgotten computer bits.

    I didn't have a fan that fit the hypercool 212 so I just strapped a larger fan to the side of it, gave the processor some new thermal paste, and bolted everything together.

    Finally, I did a little overclocking. That ram turned out to be ddr3 running at 2000, which was pretty good, and with a mild overclock I had the 8350 pushing 4.4ghz comfortably (it was stable at even higher speeds, but with the screwy cooler fan I had on there I didn't want to stress it, and I didn't feel like spending more money for better cooling).

    The end result is a scrappy pile of bits that runs remarkably well. The SSD is fast and windows loads extremely quickly. Everything is snappy. I tested a few games out. GTA V's benchmark on high everything 1080p ran steadily between 70 and 110+fps without ever dipping below 60. Overwatch is pushing 200 FPS on ultra with 100% scaling at 1080p, which is fine. Minecraft runs beautifully, and frankly, I couldn't find a game that I cared about in my steam library that didn't run exceptionally well. Most of them pegged the refresh rate on the monitor without any issues at high settings 1080p.

    The old 8350 and that rx 480 still has some life left :). I spent a little extra putting a few good-for-9-year-old games on there (portal 2, minecraft, fortnite) and it's done. For $200, I'd have a hard time doing any better. I mean, this thing is hitting passmark and benchmark scores pretty damn close to my primary gaming rig downstairs (to be fair, that's just a 4790k with a gtx 980 in it - but that machine happily runs everything I care about at 165hz on my high refresh rate 1440p predator). I'm impressed with the 8350/rx 480 combo.

    (okay okay, I'll still had to spend $10 on a keyboard, $25 on a steelseries rival mouse, $50 on some cloud stinger headphones, and $10 on a nice mouse pad, but hey, we're going to pretend I didn't do that)

    I still need to dust everything off (forgive the dust in the pic, I just haven't bothered cleaning it up yet), and then I hand it over. Hell, I've had this machine on my desk upstairs for a few days (sitting next to my work imac) and I'm actually going to miss it. I've been enjoying having a few latenight overwatch sessions on this old beast.

    I think it'll be good for a few years of high quality fun, at any rate :).

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    Most stupid reason to fail POST?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 05:34 AM PDT

    So... As a first time builder I first put everything inside the chasis and managed all cables and then tested POST.
    Power on, all fans go, GPU lit.
    No Post, started sweating a little.
    First checked RAM, then secured all power headers, also reset motherboard. Tried again, no POST.
    Sweating profusely.
    Scrolling through forums, checking youTube videos, remembering bad reviews about all my parts.
    Panicing for 3 hours, skipping bathroom break and dinner, finally decided to remove everything to test core parts. Prepared for sending back one or more parts.
    Suddenly, as I shakingly yanking out my stuck GPU out of the motherboard, a lid fell off from the GPU.
    I almost had a heart attack.
    As I stumble to investigate the origin of the lid, I noticed the now exposed metal port on the GPU. A HDMI port, I thought.
    Turned to my motherboard, remembering that I had connected the monitor to the motherboard but the cpu has no iGPU...
    Tested again, system Posted. Made dinner at 00:20 am.

    TL;DR - No POST due to connecting monitor to motherboard instead of GPU when cpu has no iGPU.

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    Do you really need a 3000 graphics card? Here's a helpful table and FAQ to help with your upgrade path

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:43 AM PDT

    Introduction

    I am hoping that this will be a good reference for some frequently asked questions about upgrades on here. It will help people understand some of their hardware limitations, and prove why some things (like PCIE 4.0) are not at all important. This will greatly help folks understand if they can handle a monitor upgrade, or if they should get a better GPU. I'm also posting an FAQ after this info to explain lots of these questions using the data.

    This table will show the number of pixels that are generated each second (PPS) for various resolution and FPS combinations. If you were to keep all settings the same (ie. stay pegged at ultra and RTX off) then your PC should be able to push a different res/FPS combo with the same PPS as long as you have a modern capable CPU.

    Pixels per Second combinations

    Resolution: 1080 1440 4k
    FPS
    30 62,208,000 110,592,000 248,832,000
    60 124,416,000 221,184,000 497,664,000
    120 248,832,000 442,368,000 995,328,000
    144 298,598,400 530,841,600 1,194,393,600
    165 342,144,000 608,256,000 1,368,576,000
    200 414,720,000 737,280,000 1,658,880,000
    240 497,664,000 884,736,000 1,990,656,000
    360 746,496,000 1,327,104,000 2,985,984,000

    Explanation:

    So for an example. If you are currently running a 1080/240 monitor and all is smooth, you can see that you can confidently upgrade to a 1440 monitor and know that you can run the exact same settings at 120hz, and likely 144hz without worrying about upgrading your GPU too. In the opposite direction say you have a 4k/60 monitor and want to get something faster, you can confidently switch to a 1440/144 monitor and for sure hit at least 120hz out the gate.

    This shows just how hard 4k still is too. If you want something visually stunning and don't care about speed, then your PC that maxes at 240hz in 1080 will just handle 4k/60.

    FAQ:

    Do I need PCIE 4.0?

    Simple answer, no. Longer answer, PCIE 3.0 can handle everything on this table with plenty of headroom. The PCIE 3.0 standard maxes out at 32 GB/s. If you are running standard 8-bit color then at 4k/360hz you are only pushing 11.2 GB/s. If you have a way to stretch that to 16-bit color then you are still only using 20.16 GB/s. You won't max out PCIE 3.0 until 8k/240hz using standard 8-bit color. So That 3090 you have your eyes set on won't even need PCIE 4.0 unless you're pushing 8k/120hz with 16-bit color, or it is using a ridiculous number of inactive pixels.

    Likely not. The above crossed through info where I was being dumb shows just how much 32GB/s really is. Basically for all the information the CPU sends to the graphics card for processing it has to be exceeding that level. If you're getting a new motherboard it isn't a bad idea to go ahead and get one with a PCIE 4.0 port because at some point there will be a game that is so detailed it hits the PCIE 3.0 limit at high FPS. That will likely be awhile though. If your budget doesn't even allow for a cheaper B550 board then you'll do fine without it for now.

    Should I wait for the new G-Sync 360hz monitors to fUtUrE pRoOf?

    Probably not. If you want the 1440/360hz monitor then your rig better be capable of handling 4k/165hz. If you think it can do that then sure, but I seriously wonder if the 3090 will even be able to make that happen in anything besides e-sports titles (which is what they're made for). With how low you'll have to turn quality down it probably won't be worth it. Benchmarks will tell us for sure.

    Do I need a new GPU for the monitor I want?

    That's where this table will help you. Match what you know about your current setup over to your new monitor and see. If you are pushing your current monitor at max tilt and not maxing your system, I'd recommend upgrading your monitor before spending on the GPU. If you max your system out then and want to hit a higher FPS then pick up the GPU.

    Where does CPU come into play here?

    As long as you have a modern CPU that's let's say Ryzen 5-series and up or equivalent you should be fine for these purposes. If you want to get into the super high refresh rates (200+) then it starts to matter and you may want to find some more speed in the latest/greatest. Generally though you will see that your CPU is not very close to being fully utilized while running most games unless you have a lot of other stuff running in the background.

    Should I get a 3000 series card?

    If you've looked at all the numbers and think you actually have tangible benefit then sure! Don't get one if you will need a new monitor too though unless you're ready to buy them as a pair. With the prices this is probably a great time to upgrade to a 3070 or 3080 IF you are GPU limited. Still wait for benchmarks though people.

    8K?!?!?

    No way, not happening. To hit 30hz in 8k your PC better handle 4k/120 with ease. If you want something remotely smooth you won't touch 8k for quite awhile still. My bet is this is the limit of a 3090. And this all goes without there being any mainstream 8k options for TVs or monitors so keep dreaming.

    If you have any other thoughts that fit in here drop a comment and I'll add them!

    Edit 1: I got washed away in the numbers and was an idiot about PCIE stuff

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    Cyberpunk 2077 system requirements most likely being revealed on Friday. So anyone who is planning an upgrade for this game will have two months to plan

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:21 AM PDT

    This tweet is hinting that system requirements are replacing the making of the OST in the Night City Wire on Friday. I'm excited.

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    The case for 4K gaming with the GeForce 3080

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 07:13 AM PDT

    After yesterday's post which argued against the value of 4K gaming, and given that GeForce 3080 reviews and benchmarks have just become available, I thought I'd make an an opposing argument. I'll be referencing benchmarks from three publications - Tom's Hardware, Techspot, and The Verge.

    The obvious first step is to look at raw performance on this card at 4K and 1440. Tom's Hardware [1] averaged 9 games and measured 151.9 FPS at 1440 and 97.0 FPS at 4K - 1440 had 56.6% higher framerates. Techspot [2] averaged 14 games and found 171 FPS at 1440 and 108 FPS at 4K - 1440 had 58.3% higher framerates.

    These values speak for themselves, and it's up to each person to decide whether to prioritize the higher framerates of 1440 or the greater fidelity of 4K. That will depend on the types of games you play, the minimum framerates that you're comfortable with, etc. But we are now at a point where a mainstream card can natively render modern games at 4K well above 60 FPS.

    But the story doesn't stop there. The Verge [3] has a nice breakdown of performance with different settings - including with DLSS enabled or disabled. At 1440 Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Death Stranding, and Control ran at 96, 149, and 141 FPS respectively. At 4K with DLSS enabled the same games ran at 94, 135, and 114 FPS. In these cases, 1440 ran only 2.1%, 10.3%, and 23.7% faster.

    DLSS is a game changer, what it provides is free or cheap resolution and crispness wherever you have a monitor that can support it. We have every reason to think that the vast majority of future releases will support DLSS. We don't actually have to choose between framerate and resolution any more - with DLSS we can have both.

    [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-review

    [2] https://www.techspot.com/review/2099-geforce-rtx-3080/

    [3] https://www.theverge.com/21435926/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-review

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    1440p 144hz build

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:36 AM PDT

    So I'd like to upgrade my rig to be able to hit 144fps consistently at 1440p (understand there will be some outliers, but let's say 95% of games). I was planning on getting a 3080 but after watching some of the 3080 reviews this morning I was a bit disappointed with the 1440p performance. What should my upgrade path be to achieving 144fps at 1440p (or even 120fps)?

    Current specs:

    CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x

    Mobo: Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus

    GPU: 2070 Super

    Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18

    PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750

    Thanks in advance!

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    Used graphics cards?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:10 AM PDT

    Is buying used graphics cards safe? Like can you trust that people aren't lying about what they are?

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    RTX 3080 and Ryzen 7 3700x build?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:13 PM PDT

    Should i build this PC?

    I have a 1440p 144hz monitor so that's what i'm aiming for. I'm a bit new to PC building and I would like an opinion on this build. Thanks in advance!

    [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BczMPn)

    Type|Item|Price

    :----|:----|:----

    **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box) | $297.99 @ Amazon

    **Motherboard** | [MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi) | $179.99 @ Amazon

    **Memory** | [Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QBrYcf/kingston-hyperx-fury-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-hx432c16fb3k216) | $68.98 @ Amazon

    **Storage** | [Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RykgXL/kingston-a2000-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sa2000m8500g) | $66.49 @ Staples

    **Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008) | $54.99 @ Newegg

    **Video Card** | [Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cnRgXL/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-10-gb-strix-gaming-video-card-rog-strix-rtx3080-10g-gaming) |-

    **Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LVQfrH/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-d-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec500atg_dbk01) |-

    **Power Supply** | [Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na) | $144.98 @ Newegg

    | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

    | **Total** | **$813.42**

    | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2020-09-16 15:10 EDT-0400 |

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    Thanks To Amazon, I Get a Free* 3080

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:22 PM PDT

    So last year, on October 31st, I bought my 2080 Super after saving up for months.

    Fast forward to today and the new 3080s come out tomorrow and I remember that I got a 2 year warranty on my GPU... Oh no! It just happened to break!

    Spoke to Amazon, and yep, I'm getting a full refund. £650 buckerooosss.

    Can't wait to get to buy it!

    *Not actually free, just equivalent exchange

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    Should I go for a 2060 or 1660super?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:08 PM PDT

    My setup is

    I7 3770 16gb ram 240 ssd 500w PSU

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    How do I safely format my old drives to resell them?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:06 AM PDT

    Hello everyone,

    I recently did somes storage upgrades with my PC and I'm looking to sell a couple old SSDs. Obviously my personal data will be on these drives, so I want to make sure whoever gets my drives doesnt have a chance of getting any of my data.

    So how should I go about doing this? I know simply formatting them in Windows isn't enough as, from what I understand, that doesn't "erase" anyhting but simply allows the old files to be overwritten.

    Is there a software I could use to help with this?

    Thanks for you time, as alaways I appreciate all help.

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    Buying a 3080 at release

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 11:57 AM PDT

    What time do you guys think the card with actually go on sale? What are the odds it sells out in 15 minutes and I'm not able to preorder one? I'm a little anxious about missing out and I've been planning on building a new PC this fall for quite some time.

    So, do you guys think it will sell out quickly?

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    3080 Build so long as I get the card tomorrow

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:53 PM PDT

    Here is my build for the 3080 release tomorrow. The parts prices includes tax already, so this should be my total cost. The founders edition card is not on pcpartpicker, so I just picked a random 3080. I haven't bought anything yet, but if I get the card tomorrow then I will pick up everything from Microcenter.

    This is my current build. I think this will be a big upgrade. I decided to go with the x570 over the b550 because the price difference wasn't too extreme and I like the aesthetic of this board and the already-included wifi. I think the 32 gigs of RAM is probably overkill as is the 3700x, but I have the money to spend a little extra, so even if it's just a few percent difference, I will take it. Also, the PSU is from my previous build.

    I am planning on doing 1440p 144hz gaming on this. I also like doing 3d rendering and simulations. I also want to get VR soon, so this set up should do everything that I should want to do for hopefully 5 years.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $289.46
    Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $179.46
    Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $148.46
    Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.46
    Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card $740.94
    Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $109.46
    Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1577.24
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-16 15:42 EDT-0400

    If you have any feedback on the build it would be appreciated, I don't think there is anything I am overlooking.

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    Do I need to upgrade my 550W PSU for RTX 3080?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:31 AM PDT

    I'm thinking of getting RTX 3080 and pair it with 3600x.

    As per this review, power draw for 3080+3600xt is 460W:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL4rGGYuzms @ 2:45

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    Mixing RAM and using 3 slots

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:32 AM PDT

    Hey guys,

    My dad's been working from home and is lagging on his 4gb office system that's already pretty old. I have 2 (slow) 4gb sticks that are just sitting around so we're planning on dropping them into his system. Now here's the question: I know mixing ram kits and using odd numbers of GBs or slots is generally looked down upon because it causes timing issues or something like that. However, I also know y'all love to get every ounce of performance out of your systems and that sometimes means things seems to be a bigger issue than they actually are. Would these performance issues be noticeable for non-gaming workloads? He mainly just uses Microsoft Office, Excel, Teams, and has several tabs open at a time. Would it be better in this scenario to use the full 12GB available to us (my old 2 stick set + the ram that's already in there) or just stick to using my 8GB set?

    Also lowkey my dad hates wasting things and I know he'll probably want to just put all 12GB in. I'm aware 8GB will probably be enough for his workload. Pls give me reasons to tell him off when this gets brought up if it's better to only use the 8GB set.

    TL;DR: Old office PC ram upgrade for a strictly office workload. Is it better to use 3 sticks of unmatching ram for a total of 12GB or is it better to just use an old 8GB matching set.

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    First ever build - RTX 3080

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:49 PM PDT

    Hi All! I'm looking to finally build my first gaming PC after decades of being a console guy. Stoked, and I feel like it's a good time to get in with all the recent releases. I've been reading this subreddit for a few weeks, and did a lot of research, but I'm still a noob and I present my proposed 3080 4k gaming build for discussion as I'm sure I still have a lot of "known unknowns" and "unknown unknowns". Thanks for your help!

    Intended Use: Gaming, and work - some video editing, Adobe suite, etc.

    Performance I am looking for: I really just want a high-performing PC that will give me some beautiful gaming for years to come. I want gorgeous Cyberpunk 2077, I play a lot of Rocket League, somewhat into FPS games, and I am going to have the most modded-out Morrowind files that I can haha.

    Monitor (already own): Predator X27 B 4K @ 144hz - got it refurbed for a killer deal.

    Budget: Roughly $1500-1800 but I can be convinced otherwise.

    Country: USA

    Draft Build Below

    PC Part Picker: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GYr9G

    • CPU: Ryzen 3700X
    • Cooler: Is the stock cooler OK for this build? Or do I need to upgrade it
    • Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4
    • Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18
    • SSD: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280
    • GPU: RTX 3080 (if I can snag one when they come out - but down to wait as well)
    • PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX *Wireless: Asus PCE-AC88 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter

    Total Cost: ~$1800 (1000 without 3080)

    Questions and considerations:

    • Is the stock cooler with the Ryzen 3700x enough for this setup? Will I need to add a 3rd-party cooler to run what I have?
    • Am I spending money unwisely anywhere?
    • For the WiFi card - it's an expensive one, but I'll be moving the PC around the house and I just want a rock solid wifi setup when I can't ethernet in so happy to pay the premium.
    • I might upgrade the CPU once the new AMDs come out, but I'm happy to go with 3700x for now - is this a dumb way to think about it?
    • What are your thoughts, what am I missing, what should I be thinking about that I'm not?

    Thanks all! Sorry if I messed anything up in here, and I'm excited to eventually have a rad PC.

    Edit: Formatting fail.

    submitted by /u/beardofzetterberg
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    My wife's office asked for a computer than can run their basic web app, but also let their young children play on it when they are there.

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:45 PM PDT

    Their goal is to stay under $600 if possible. Does this seem fair for business and light casual use?

    [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ftJFG)

    Type|Item|Price

    :----|:----|:----

    **CPU** | [Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YTbwrH/intel-core-i3-9100f-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80684i39100f) | $71.88 @ Amazon

    **Motherboard** | [MSI B365M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/77wkcf/msi-b365m-pro-vdh-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b365m-pro-vdh) | $69.99 @ Walmart

    **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16) | $63.99 @ Amazon

    **Storage** | [Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2cJtt6/western-digital-blue-sn500-500-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g1b0c) | $77.95 @ Amazon

    **Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GT 710 1 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rtnG3C/msi-video-card-gt7101gd3hlp) | $44.99 @ Amazon

    **Case** | [NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b7hmP6/nzxt-h510-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510b-b1) | $68.83 @ Amazon

    **Power Supply** | [EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1) | $59.99 @ Walmart

    **Monitor** | [HP VH240a 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLsmP6/hp-vh240a-238-1920x1080-60hz-monitor-vh240a) | $109.99 @ Amazon

    | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |

    | **Total** | **$567.61**

    | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2020-09-16 15:40 EDT-0400 |

    submitted by /u/I_need_five_dollars
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    For a lack of a better place to ask

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:38 AM PDT

    I have an office with several thin clients and a virtualization server in my server room. My wife is picking up some classes starting November and wants to use the office for studying. She'll bring her old ultrathin laptop to/from school, and I'll dock it in the office and either use a thin client to remote in or just straight dock it to the mouse/kb/monitor.

    I want to find out if we can use the hardware on my server or the thin clients while "using" the laptop. I.e for her to be in the same environment as if she was using her laptop but with the more powerful stationary hardware we have at home. This might be a pipe dream but I lack the know-how of what terms to use while researching this. Any idea?

    submitted by /u/brin6thepayne
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    Is pcpartpicker down?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:08 PM PDT

    I was just trying to get onto pcpp but it said it could not handle that request right now? Is it down?

    Edit: Its back up

    submitted by /u/tkykim
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    Custom case from 2020 aluminum extrusions

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:07 PM PDT

    Hi, I am planning to build a PC case from 2020 aluminum extrusions and 3D printed joints, I want it to be kinda like a corsair crystal 280x, where the PSU isn't in the same space as the PC itself.

    Is there something I should account for before making it ? I already have it planned in my head and soon I'll make the 3D model in Fusion 360.

    Any advise ? Thanks !

    submitted by /u/dadzy_
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    Be honest is this any good

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:14 PM PDT

    What GPU for 1080p gaming at 120+ hz?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 11:37 AM PDT

    Hey,

    Im rocking a 1070 in my computer and recently gave myself an upgrade to my cpu/ram thanks to a good deal. While my system isnt really lacking in most games, 60+ fps at 1080p at ultra is possible at most games, i tend to run into GPU bottlenecks here and there now.

    So with the upcoming launch i thought i might take the change to upgrade. The thing is, i dont plan on getting a new monitior soon and when i wont go over 1440. So with that in mind. Is it even worth considering a 3070? Or should i just try to get a cheap used 2080 (maybe super or ti)? I want to keep this atleast for the next 1 or 2 GPU generations and hope to keep atleast the 60fps without loosing to much on the settings.

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    Good Pc build?

    Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:21 PM PDT

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