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    Build a PC: Simple Questions - December 14, 2019


    Simple Questions - December 14, 2019

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 04:08 AM PST

    This thread is for simple questions that don't warrant their own thread (although we strongly suggest checking the sidebar and the wiki before posting!). Please don't post involved questions that are better suited to a [Build Help], [Build Ready] or [Build Complete] post. Examples of questions:

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    • I'm on a very tight budget and I'm looking for a case < $50

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    I've installed a new CPU without a BIOS update, now neither old nor new give video output.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:00 AM PST

    Hey there folks, as the title informs, I have nk video output after installing a new CPU. The old CPU doesn't work either anymore. I did NOT upgrade my bios which was required. No ram reseating or CMOS clearing has worked, with neither CPU. Right now I'm even stuck with just the PSU, CPU, MOBO and GPU plugged in and it still displays no signal.

    Yes I've tried a HDMI monitor with no luck, now I'm back to using DP.

    I've asked everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Please help I'm desperate!

    I can hear my cpu cooler fan spinning faster, then decreasing, then spinning faster again

    EDIT: It finally booted to BIOS with the old CPU. I'll update now and put the ram back in as well.

    The solution to the problem:

    Plugged everything out, even the M.2 drive and ran with a single RAM stick.cleared CMOS via jumpers for one last time and it finally booted to Bios.

    Everything working fine now.

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    spend $120 more to go from gtx1650 to an rtx2060 in a laptop?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 05:34 AM PST

    I need a laptop with a good cpu for college IT classes, but I also want to play some games on it if I move into the dorms. Is spending 120 dollars more worth it?

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    Where does an AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 stand in the current gen lineup?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:55 AM PST

    Hello folks,

    I'd like to know where the AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 stand in term of performance only (don't care at all about power consumption) against the current lineup of GPU ?

    More specifically, the ASUS ROG Strix RX Vega 64. I know that over time, VEGA perf has improved drastically on the driver side so if you can point me to a very recent benchmark that would be very kind of you.

    Gaming resolution would be 1440p for now but 2160p in the not so distant future so I care about both resolution perf-wise.

    And I only care to know where it stand against those specific GPU :

    • RX 5500
    • RX 5500 XT
    • RX 5600 (TBR)
    • RX 5600 XT (TBR)
    • RX 5700
    • RX 5700 XT
    • GTX 1650 Super
    • GTX 1660 Super
    • RTX 2060 Super
    • RTX 2070 Super
    • RTX 2080 Super

    Thanks in advance for you'r advice !

    EDIT :

    So basically, what I understand is this :

    • RX Vega 56 = GTX 1080 = RTX 2060 (non-Super)
    • RX Vega 64 = RX 5700 = RTX 2060 Super = RTX 2070 (non-Super)
    • Radeon VII = RX 5700 XT = GTX 1080 Ti = RTX 2070 Super
    • RTX 2080 < RTX 2080 Super < RTX 2080 Ti

    GPU 13 games average benchmark 1440p and 4K

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    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Master IO shield aligned wrong

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:22 PM PST

    Hi everyone,

    Today I tried to install my new z390 motherboard into my Fractal Design Vector RS, however the pre installed IO shield is not aligned correctly, there is some space between the upper right corner and the standoff, the IO shield also doesn't seem to be outside of the case when installed that way and the whole shield seems misaligned

    I really wanted to install the pc today but unfortunately... I attached some pictures below.

    https://ibb.co/album/bWc55a

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    2000$ 1440p gaming+work PC build...

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 05:58 AM PST

    2000$ 1440p gaming+work PC what you think ,and if any recommendations let me know

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
    CPU Cooler Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
    Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste $6.85 @ Amazon
    Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $199.99 @ Best Buy
    Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
    Storage HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $114.87 @ Amazon
    Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Walmart
    Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $389.99 @ Newegg
    Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $99.98 @ Newegg
    Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.99 @ Newegg
    Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $20.00
    Case Fan Fractal Design Prisma AL-14 PWM 3-Pack 103.85 CFM 140 mm Fans $75.47 @ Amazon
    Case Fan Fractal Design Prisma AL-14 PWM 103.85 CFM 140 mm Fan $36.40 @ Amazon
    Monitor MSI OPTIX MAG271CQR 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $378.98 @ Amazon
    Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard $109.99 @ Best Buy
    Mouse Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse $41.99 @ Amazon
    Headphones Kingston HyperX Cloud Flight Headset $132.90 @ Amazon
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total (before mail-in rebates) $2142.36
    Mail-in rebates -$45.00
    Total $2097.36
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-14 08:48 EST-0500
    submitted by /u/Sammy-Joseph
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    Finally all my parts arrived! Can not wait to unleash this beast!

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:29 PM PST

    Intel vs AMD

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 11:33 AM PST

    My Mom and me are trying to upgrade my brothers pc but we were wondering if an i7 - 3770 is better than a AMD 2700x. My Mom doesn't trust AMD but I've been doing research lately and AMD seems like the better option since their motherboards, processor are cheaper and performance is the same. Which one would be better?

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    Need help fixing an issue with my new setup and the monitors.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:28 PM PST

    I just built a new computer and I'm having an issue when I turn it on. When I press the power button on my case the compter boots up and I can see the led indicators on the motherboard. My monitor then displays the MSI logo, but then it goes black and says no input is detected. Then when I press the reset button on my case it seems to fix the issue. I cant figure out why there is no input detected when I use the power button to turn my computer on.

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    Will this mess with my pc?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:22 PM PST

    Just wondering if the figurines would mess with anything on the pc. I doubt it but I also like being careful.

    https://imgur.com/a/ZrGkbtg

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    Help me please, finished my build but this happens when I boot it up :(

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:42 PM PST

    Sub $3000 Aud PC Build opinions

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:14 AM PST

    Build Help/Ready:

    Have you read the sidebar and rules? (Please do)

    Yes

    What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.

    Mostly gaming with the option to branch out into streaming

    If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)

    Currently running 1080p 144hz. Edit: Will be looking to get a second monitor in the near future, most likely 1440p

    What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?

    Sub $3000 AUD

    In what country are you purchasing your parts?

    Australia

    Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $329.00 @ Mwave Australia
    CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler $254.00 @ Shopping Express
    Motherboard MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $307.00 @ Shopping Express
    Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $276.10 @ Newegg Australia
    Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $148.00 @ Shopping Express
    Storage Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $84.00 @ Austin Computers
    Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card $879.00 @ Shopping Express
    Case NZXT H710i ATX Mid Tower Case $275.00 @ Shopping Express
    Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $188.00 @ Shopping Express
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $2740.10
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-14 20:12 AEDT+1100

    Provide any additional details you wish below.


    NOTE: You do not have to follow this format, but please be sure to answer these questions. Please do not ask to simply be given a build. You are welcome to delete this section.

    submitted by /u/Drazieth
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    2600+ 5700 or 3600+1660 super

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 11:22 AM PST

    Which one should I get.

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    Is it worth enabling PBO (3700X with Kraken X62 and X570 AORUS ELITE)? Cinebench R20 scores included...

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 04:02 AM PST

    Hi, everyone!

    I just built a new system. The specs are:

    • AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    • Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
    • MSI Gaming X Trio 2080 Super
    • 16 GB G.Skill Trizent Z 3600 MHz 16-16-16
    • NZXT Kraken X62
    • NZXT H510 Elite

    I've been running Cinebench R20 with PBO set to Auto and then to Enabled. Here's what I found (according to HWMonitor). Note that other than enabling XMP, I haven't touched anything else performance-related in BIOS.

    PBO Auto

    All cores seemed to be running between 3917-3942 MHz during Cinebench R20.

    Max clock: 4390 MHz

    Max temp: 59ºC

    Cinebench R20 score: 4667

    PBO Enabled

    All cores seemed to be running at 4142 MHz (~200 MHz or 5% more) during Cinebench R20.

    Max clock: 4391 MHz (same)

    Max temp: 69ºC (17% increase)

    Cinebench R20 score: 4923 (~5% more)

    So, the max clock is the same between the two but the speeds all cores were running during Cinebench R20 were ~200 MHz higher, or ~5%, with PBO Enabled. The cost of that, however, was ~10ºC, which is a 17% increase. While just less than 70ºC under full load seems fine, I'm not sure if this is really worth it. In gaming, is it going to be worth having PBO Enabled? From what I've read, some people say it gives a little performance but some say it takes some.

    Thanks, everyone. Have a nice weekend!

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    GPU fan spinning up to 4k rpm for a few seconds while gaming before dropping back to 2k.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 12:38 PM PST

    I've tried searching around but couldn't find any solutions.

    I've got a Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS. While gaming, one fan will spin up to 4k RPM for a few seconds before slowing down. The temps are around 74 C at that time, which seems normal. The limit temperature is set to 83.

    The second fan works as normal. Here's a screenshot from Afterburner https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500986444110626816/655506209079558154/unknown.png (I've only ran the game for a few minutes there)

    I've had this card for a year now. The issue didn't start occurring until around a month ago.

    I've thoroughly dusted it, and my case. I've tried messing with fan curves, but nothing seemed to change the behavior, the fan still going up to 4k rpm every few moments while a game is running.

    Any ideas what it could be?

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    Used Wrong Screw on Motherboard and Can't remove

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 10:11 AM PST

    Don't really care system works but would like to you know remove it if it breaks. Any advice?

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    PC keeps turning off and on after upgrading CPU

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 11:35 AM PST

    Hey everyone, long story short, I've been having very difficult troubles with my PC lately from just simply upgrading my CPU 8400 to a 9900k. After initially installing the 9900k my computer went into a windows repair mode prior to posting.

    Current problem: After some time, my computer suddenly started to turn off and on within a second of turning on.

    Here's my old thread about my initial problem with the windows repair

    Here's what I tried to isolate the problem with my hardware, however, I had no luck. I have the 9900k installed with all of the below scenarios.

    1. Purchased/installed a brand new z390 Aorus master
    2. Purchased/installed a brand new seasonic 750w gold prime PSU
    3. Used one ram in slot 1 and interchanged all four of my RAM in the slot.
    4. Used the OEM seasonic PSU modular cables (I had cablemod ones prior)
    5. Removed my 2080 ti

    I have no idea what is causing my computer to repeatedly turn off and on within the second of turning it on.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm willing to paypal someone $5 if they could help me fix this.

    Here are my current specs:

    Mobo- z390 aorus master

    CPU- 8400 - > 9900k

    Ram 4x8 gb g skill trident

    Ssd- m2 nvme Samsung 970 1 tb

    Gpu - 2080 ti

    Psu- 650 w gold prime seasonic - > 750 w gold prime seasonic

    EDIT:

    After clearing the CMOS via the battery, it finally stays on, however, nothing appears on the screen.

    Doing a bit more research into the CMOS button, I believe I may accidently hit the Clear CMOS button on accidentally on both old and new motherboard while the computer was on. The Clear CMOS button is right next to the Power on button on the Aorus Master.

    Could it be that my CPU and motherboard have been bricked? My GPU seems fine and spinning, RAM is glowing via RGB.

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    New PC won't display anything

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:45 PM PST

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jx8db8

    On first boot my monitor was set on the wrong input and by the time I switched it said windows had booted incorrectly so I tried restarting to go into the bios. Now it won't display anything. I haven't installed windows on it so I don't know what it's trying to boot. Please help

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    Build a PC with 3700X and Zotac 2080s. Worked great but now main menu of every game is giving me 5 fps. Seems like GPU is not being detected

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:41 PM PST

    GPU light is on and I am currently updating the drivers. Could that be the issue? I can still output the via the GPU hdmi port so ik it is still working..

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    No post, no boot, and no fun.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 11:24 AM PST

    CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

    CPU Cooler | ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler

    Motherboard | *ASRock X570 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

    Memory | G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

    Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

    Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS Video Card

    Case | NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case | $69.98 @ Amazon Power Supply | EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

    Fully new build with the parts above. At this point in time I can't get to post or any signal to monitor (using display port or HDMI). Front panel has power, all fans turn on, no beep codes. Solid LED on the mobo for CPU and DRAM.

    It will go through what seems like a boot cycle. On for 15ish seconds then restarts itself.

    I've tried quite a few fixes including:

    • Unplugging and replugging in all power supply cables.

    *Booting with one stick of ram, swapping and trying both.

    *Booting with GPU removed.

    *Moving SSD to M.2-3

    *Checked to make sure there are no extra mobo risers.

    *Trying to reset CMOS by flipping the battery for 5 seconds.

    I'll work on making an imgur album and post it in the comments. Any help is greatly appreciated!

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    Guys is that the cmos battery?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 11:18 AM PST

    I have the aorus master z390 and i9 9900k and rtx 2080 ti. And i noticed sometimes when i check the frequency for my memory with cpu z that my frequency is low. And when i go to check on my bios it gives me a message that my bios has been full resetted. And then i noticed one more thing. The time in bios is wrong by like 5 min. Is that the cmos battery needs to be changed?

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    Losing video signal during gaming

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:27 PM PST

    So recently after I updated my AMD adrenaline driver from 2019vers. to 2020vers. I've been experiencing loss of video signal during gaming. When this happens my screen turns black saying "video signal is loss" but I could still hear the background music but my screen never returns. Forcing me to shut it down so I can bring back my screen. It's been happening in the past 2 days and haven't found a solution. I have an powercolor 5700 XT, ryzen 2600, and corsair cx650m. I've never had this issue before until I updated my driver. I've tried reinstalling and installing it clean and that hasn't fixed it. It hasn't happened outside from gaming and browsing web, watching vids, hasn't made me lose video signal. Just gaming. Any help is appreciated

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    Planning to start on my first build, looking for some part advice.

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:27 PM PST

    What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.

    I want to use it for gaming and video editing, I plan to mostly play games on it though.

    If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)

    Would like to play most games I have on high quality with 60+ fps on 1080p (Witcher 3 and Borderlands 3 are probably the most demanding games I play)

    What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?

    I was planning to spend around 800 if that is possible, but after putting a test build together it looks like I will be spending more (especially since I need a monitor and keyboard)

    In what country are you purchasing your parts?

    I am in the United States

    Post a draft of your potential build here (specific parts please). Consider formatting your parts list. Don't ask to be spoonfed a build (read the rules!).

    https://pcpartpicker.com/user/acelabba/saved/mxXgJx

    Provide any additional details you wish below.

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $144.99 @ B&H
    CPU Cooler ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler $22.99 @ Amazon
    Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $49.99 @ Newegg
    Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ B&H
    Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.99 @ Amazon
    Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card $219.99 @ Amazon
    Case Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ Walmart
    Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $53.98 @ Newegg
    Monitor Acer R221Q bid 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $79.98 @ Amazon
    Keyboard A4Tech G800V Wired Gaming Keyboard $29.99 @ Amazon
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $916.87
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-14 16:25 EST-0500

    I am mostly just looking for some help in making sure that this build will like work out fine. I have helped my two roommates build computers, but have never really gone through picking parts online myself, so I am unsure if everything will fit. Also would appreciate any advice / input on alternative parts to use.

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    Any tips or trick for non VESA monitor to be in portrait ?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:09 PM PST

    Hi guys,

    So i have a LG24MP88HM-s monitor which doesn't have vesa mount, i want to use it as my secondary monitors for my game stream to reading live chat. I want it to be portrait due to limited desk space. Any idea how can i make it to be portrait? It doesn't have vesa mount and the stand doesn't support rotation. I was planning to buy something looks like table stand for ipad but bigger size for 24" monitors, are there any stands like that? (sample : https://i.imgur.com/vRej5oD.jpg) Or you guys have tricks or solutions for it.

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    Do i need a wifi adapter?

    Posted: 14 Dec 2019 01:01 PM PST

    I watched the recently uploaded techsource build guide and at the beginning he says that you only need the adapter to download the drivers. Once you have downloaded them i am assuming that he meant that you don't need the adapter anymore. Is this true or do you have to have a motherboard with built in wifi to not have to use the adapter. I already have laptops that i can download the drivers onto.

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